Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 We always used to use Oust to clean the Hotpoint washing machine and Bosch dishwasher. When the Hotpoint engineer came out once he slated Oust and recommended Wpro, universal limescale and grease remover. Of course he would recommend a Whirlpool product! ? Any other recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliG Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 A good place to check this kind of stuff is often Amazon reviews. Both get a very high score from lots of customers. WPRO seems a little cheaper as you can buy large boxes for less than £1 a go. Considering they are cheap and well reviewed I am not sure it is worth looking elsewhere. It is amazing the effect hard water has on machines. I have never used one of these products ever up here with no obvious issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, AliG said: A good place to check this kind of stuff is often Amazon reviews. Both get a very high score from lots of customers. WPRO seems a little cheaper as you can buy large boxes for less than £1 a go. Considering they are cheap and well reviewed I am not sure it is worth looking elsewhere. It is amazing the effect hard water has on machines. I have never used one of these products ever up here with no obvious issues. 201 - 275 ppm here. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJohnG Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Move to Scotland....don't think hard water is an issue anywhere here? Only downside being that little light to say you have no salt in the dishwasher never goes out. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SuperJohnG said: Move to Scotland....don't think hard water is an issue anywhere here? Only downside being that little light to say you have no salt in the dishwasher never goes out. ? Dishwasher is too old to have such a light. It's like Trigger's Broom. I sort/fix the DW. We pay to have the WM under a service contract 'cos it's always going wrong and basically crap. Sealed drum etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJohnG Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Onoff said: Dishwasher is too old to have such a light. It's like Trigger's Broom. I sort/fix the DW. We pay to have the WM under a service contract 'cos it's always going wrong and basically crap. Sealed drum etc. I had to Google triggers broom.....albeit I know the programme. I'm getting a borehole at my plot albeit I scotland i wonder if thats different to normal soft water supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) We put cheap white vinegar in our dishwasher. Set machine going on a hot wash and wait for the initial pump out to finish. Then open door and pour it in. Can also use it as rinse aid. Edited August 30, 2020 by Temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Temp said: We put cheap white vinegar in our dishwasher. Set machine going on a hot wash and wait for the initial pump out to finish. Then open door and pour it in. Can also use it as rinse aid. I've heard of the "cupful of white vinegar trick". Got a feeling we might have tried it but it was when the DW had serious blockage issues. When I have had to strip the dishwasher down I used vinegar & bicarb to flush through the bubble matrix. The main issues were that and the grey pipe at the bottom which was full of gunge. I wonder how many DWs get binned because of this. Tbh that's how SWMBO cleans the kettle of limescale here (white vinegar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Calgon tablet once a week, and a cheap Tesco dishwasher cleaner once a month is what I was told for hard water areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 12 hours ago, Onoff said: Any other recommendations? Could always fit a water softener if you had one lying around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, PeterStarck said: Could always fit a water softener if you had one lying around . I was waiting for that! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, Onoff said: I was waiting for that! ? Don't like to disappoint . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) As I don't want to be drinking softened water (I'm one red label away from high BP problems again), I'd want a separate, cold mains feed for all the sinks and basins. Can't quite get my head round the plumbing. Mains comes in one side of the (big) house where the 3 WCs, bathroom and ensuite is. A 15mm cold feed then goes up and through the dormer ceiling to the kitchen the other side of the house. HW Cylinder is above the kitchen ceiling, CWS and header tanks are above that. Boiler next to the kitchen. Hot to the sinks and baths then go back across the top of the dormer/ round the outside to the other side of the house again. To run new pipes (and copper is a must here) it's either floors up of ceilings down...or HOUSE down! ? Guess I need to separate the mains somewhere... One for another day (year). Siting the water filter where the mains comes in in the bathroom cupboard isn't favoured by SWMBO. Then where to take the drain to etc. Edited August 31, 2020 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 why is copper a must? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, dpmiller said: why is copper a must? & his mate from The Tufty Club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Could always fit these on the feed to the dishwasher. Work pretty well. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232518514655 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, PeterW said: Could always fit these on the feed to the dishwasher. Work pretty well. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232518514655 Interesting. I wonder how long they last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 About 6 months but you can buy the tubs of a kilo of the balls for about £20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Cup of white vinegar in the top tray and the hottest wash available always does it for dishwashers. All these fancy brands will have to believe that have magic potions. All in 1 dishwasher tablets from LIDL / ALDI are great too, but it does no harm to keep the salt container topped up if you are outside of scotland and the far south west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, ryder72 said: Cup of white vinegar in the top tray and the hottest wash available always does it for dishwashers. All these fancy brands will have to believe that have magic potions. All in 1 dishwasher tablets from LIDL / ALDI are great too, but it does no harm to keep the salt container topped up if you are outside of scotland and the far south west. Don't think I've ever put salt in our dishwasher, its nearly 5 years old. And only a thimble of vinegar would fit in the tab slot - 50ml? Occasionally throw in a 'cleaner', never specifically cleaned the rotors ^ normal dishwasher owner/operator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 If you use all in one tabs, strictly speaking there is no need to use salt. However, salt is no inexpensive that it does help neutralise the chalk we get FOC with our water in the southeast more effective so for the sake of a few quid a year there is no point in compromising. If you dont use all in one tabs, then salt is definitely needed to soften hard water. Vinegar goes into a cup on the top shelf at the front of the dishwasher. I am not sure why it should be at the front but it didnt seem worth my while experimenting. Its more important that cleaning the dishwasher with various cleaners to clean out the filters every couple of weeks if its used daily without rinsing plates before loading (we dont). The amount of gunk is eye opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ryder72 said: Vinegar goes into a cup on the top shelf at the front of the dishwasher. I am not sure why it should be at the front but it didnt seem worth my while experimenting. Guessing: because that is where the tablets go roughly, so designed to distribute evenly from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryder72 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Ferdinand said: Guessing: because that is where the tablets go roughly, so designed to distribute evenly from there. Maybe. But the tablet drops into the base which is flooded. Doesnt matter as I have found a cup of white vinegar does the job perfectly and costs pennies vs a fancy bottle of multicoloured liquid for £3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 hours ago, ryder72 said: The amount of gunk is eye opening. After many years of use I stripped the dishwasher to it's component parts. The "grey tube" at the base was pretty much solid. You have to wonder how many get thrown out for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 hours ago, ryder72 said: Vinegar goes into a cup on the top shelf at the front of the dishwasher. I am not sure why it should be at the front but it didnt seem worth my while experimenting. ? Literally a cup of vinegar put on the top rack. ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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