Mr Punter Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 I have just got a quote for a new leccy connection. 3 new flats, so 3 phase into a kiosk (supplied and fitted by us). They are also disconnecting the existing supply. All the cables are in the footpath, 3 metres away from the new kiosk. This is in Brighton suburbs. No road works or traffic lights needed. All on a quiet footpath. Because they can, I think they allow 1 visit to excavate joint bay and lay out barriers, 1 visit to disconnect existing and joint new and 1 visit to reinstate and remove barriers. Could all be done in a day without breaking sweat. The price? £3,094 to do the work, which I think could be done for a quarter of this but they have the monopoly and want to make a profit. The parking costs? I would welcome your guesses as to the amount they want to cover parking and I will let you know the quoted amount tomorrow (Tuesday 4 August 2020), with a special prize of a LIKE to whoever gets closest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 £62.50.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJohnG Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 If I got a connection for £3094... I'd happily pay the parking for everyone involved. I'll guess 123.40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, SuperJohnG said: If I got a connection for £3094... I'd happily pay the parking for everyone involved. I'll guess 123.40 For a connection of 3m? I cannot think that many Scots would agree with you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Parking in Brighton is a nightmare and extremely expensive. So I’m going to say they’d need 3 parking bays booked out for an entire day. And then add a nice council ‘fee’ on top. And then an admin fee. Then a notification fee. All-in......I reckon £1800. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Is it cheaper NOT to pay for parking and agree to pay the fines instead ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Temp said: Is it cheaper NOT to pay for parking and agree to pay the fines instead ? Yes if you pay within 14 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 17 hours ago, Mr Punter said: I have just got a quote for a new leccy connection. 3 new flats, so 3 phase into a kiosk (supplied and fitted by us). They are also disconnecting the existing supply. All the cables are in the footpath, 3 metres away from the new kiosk. This is in Brighton suburbs. No road works or traffic lights needed. All on a quiet footpath. Because they can, I think they allow 1 visit to excavate joint bay and lay out barriers, 1 visit to disconnect existing and joint new and 1 visit to reinstate and remove barriers. Could all be done in a day without breaking sweat. The price? £3,094 to do the work, which I think could be done for a quarter of this but they have the monopoly and want to make a profit. The parking costs? I would welcome your guesses as to the amount they want to cover parking and I will let you know the quoted amount tomorrow (Tuesday 4 August 2020), with a special prize of a LIKE to whoever gets closest! When I did an at exhibition in a small gallery in Nottingham a bit over a decade ago, it cost more to park the car for some time each day than it did to hire the gallery. So .. Brighton. Parking and a bit of digging. £400-500 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundtuit Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 A couple of spaces...3 days... a few quid admin... £350? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 I will update this at 19:00 hours. Some guesses have been closer than others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Ok - so if the wisdom of crowds holds then, given the guesses to this point, we have an average of: £557.18, without factoring in the parking fines idea - that feels high. Assuming a fine of £35 (worst case for Brighton & Hove higher, see below) if you pay early and Mr P is not toying with us by giving us the clue that if you paid early it would be cheaper to pay the fines - and, by extension that it would be more expensive to pay the full fine, then the range, per bay, is between £75 (3 days lower rate) and £210 (3 days full fine higher.) However we have no idea how many vehicles will need parking although we have a variety of guesses at that above. So if three days / 3 bays then worst case £630 and best case £225 so after careful consideration and trying to get a best estimate I think I will go for £400! Parking fines from Bright & Hove web site. Level of charge Amount of charge Discount charge if paid within 14 days from the date of the issuing of the notice Higher £70 £35 Lower £50 £25 Bus lane £60 £30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I guess I'm the only cynical old git on here then! everyone else's guess seems reasonable when it comes to dealing with councils and parking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 OK a bit late for the update, but they are asking for £1,200 for parking. Amazingly @Thorfun was closest and also overestimated by £600. Trophy symbol for him, sad face for the rest of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: OK a bit late for the update, but they are asking for £1,200 for parking. Amazingly @Thorfun was closest and also overestimated by £600. Trophy symbol for him, sad face for the rest of you. WTAF..??!!!! What are they parking and for how long ..???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I'd go and park in the bus lane instead and pay the fine promptly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, PeterW said: WTAF..??!!!! What are they parking and for how long ..???!!! I am not really sure at the moment. They have replied to my query regarding scheduling to say "In regards to your questions of the works, we would do the digging on the first day, then the second day we would disconnect your single phase supply and then install your new three supply, then reinstate on the third day, which can take up to 5 working days, depending on the surface, to allow it to set." They are just doing a joint bay in the footpath adjacent to where we have excavated 600mm deep. We will have duct running to the edge of the joint bay into our kiosk. This could be done in a day. I cannot believe how far they are prepared to take the p*ss just because they have a near monopoly. I think the LA cost of a bay for a utility is £60, so they seem to have allowed for six vehicles. I shall be writing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Last week I got some site clearance work done. I left a car in a pay space 4 hour max for the week so the grab lorry etc could get access, thinking I would just pay the fines. Not a single ticket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 I think I might offer to pick the guys up from their houses and take them to site. Maybe pleasure them during their breaks (to the extent that distancing rules allow), take them to the pub after work, buy all the drinks, drop them back home and tuck them into bed. Still cheaper and (perhaps) less humiliating than £1,200. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: OK a bit late for the update, but they are asking for £1,200 for parking. Amazingly @Thorfun was closest and also overestimated by £600. Trophy symbol for him, sad face for the rest of you. yay for me! but boo for you. I knew it had to be a ridiculous amount. I recall the UKPN guy came to my house and we discussed the costs for our road closure for the work (single lane road) and mentioned about the astronomical costs in Brighton. so, I'm really not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: I think I might offer to pick the guys up from their houses and take them to site. Maybe pleasure them during their breaks (to the extent that distancing rules allow), take them to the pub after work, buy all the drinks, drop them back home and tuck them into bed. Still cheaper and (perhaps) less humiliating than £1,200. You're lucky that the place has only just fallen to the Greens. You've avoided the bylaw imposing a fixed penalty notice for being caught in possession of a bacon butty. Edited August 4, 2020 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Oh er ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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