New Build in Gloucestershire

[Scuba]

Hi All,

 

planning passed on a new build in gloucestershire, on a sloping plot looking to build a well insulated timber frame.

 

ive been looking at the Timber I beams, airtight board on exterior, insulated with cellulose. 
 

can anyone recommend a I beam Timberframe designer ?

 

 Thanks 

Matt

[Simplysimon]

hi and welcome  @Scuba, architect and se would be sufficient, easy to have stick built by joiner.

[Dreadnaught]

Welcome to BuildHub, Matt. 

 

Airtight on the outside. Interesting approach. Touchwood Homes does that. But most systems have the airtight layer on the inside.

 

I am currently using a timber-frame designer in Herefordshire, who has been excellent so far, and mine is I-beams. I will ask him if he is open for new business for you. (By the way, I am also using a specialist architect in Welshpool, so not far from you. She specialises in timber frame too.)

 

 

 

 

[Patrick]

@Scuba

Welcome. We are stick building with ibeam.

Like simply Simon said, architect plus SE is sufficient. We re not too far away so if you need any bad advise, get in touch ?

[MikeSharp01]

We are building in IBeam we used a standard architect and a structural engineer with me building it on site.

[Russell griffiths]

I brought all my I beams from Griggs timber in Gloucestershire I’m in Cirencester 

[Oz07]

Those airtight boards I looked into were pricey. What would you glad with?

[Jeremy Harris]

You also have MBC in Gloucester, who use a twin stud frame build up with pumped cellulose insulation.  We have one of their houses, and are extremely pleased with it.  Build details are in our blog, in the link in my signature below.

[Scuba]

3 hours ago, Simplysimon said:

hi and welcome  @Scuba, architect and se would be sufficient, easy to have stick built by joiner.

 

3 hours ago, Patrick said:

@Scuba

Welcome. We are stick building with ibeam.

Like simply Simon said, architect plus SE is sufficient. We re not too far away so if you need any bad advise, get in touch ?

 

3 hours ago, MikeSharp01 said:

We are building in IBeam we used a standard architect and a structural engineer with me building it on site.

Thanks Guys, just looking for a more cost effective approach than through my architects.

[Scuba]

3 hours ago, Patrick said:

@Scuba

Welcome. We are stick building with ibeam.

Like simply Simon said, architect plus SE is sufficient. We re not too far away so if you need any bad advise, get in touch ?

Great thanks for the offer will be intouch 

[Scuba]

3 hours ago, Russell griffiths said:

I brought all my I beams from Griggs timber in Gloucestershire I’m in Cirencester 

Thanks Russell, used Griggs on a previous build, you have my dream plot up on the lake, I do a bit of fishing up your way.

[Scuba]

1 hour ago, Oz07 said:

Those airtight boards I looked into were pricey. What would you glad with?

Still looking bud, not made a firm choice yet

[Russell griffiths]

1 minute ago, Scuba said:

Thanks Russell, used Griggs on a previous build, you have my dream plot up on the lake, I do a bit of fishing up your way.

Griggs did a full design for my roof, not sure if they can do a whole structure. 

[Scuba]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Harris said:

You also have MBC in Gloucester, who use a twin stud frame build up with pumped cellulose insulation.  We have one of their houses, and are extremely pleased with it.  Build details are in our blog, in the link in my signature below.

Hi Jeremy yes I’m waiting on MBC’s proposal, hopefully be through in the next week or so

[Scuba]

1 minute ago, Russell griffiths said:

Griggs did a full design for my roof, not sure if they can do a whole structure. 

I’ll have a chat with them 

[MikeSharp01]

12 hours ago, Scuba said:

Thanks Guys, just looking for a more cost effective approach than through my architects.

You could design the building and then let your SE create the structure - that is what our architect did. So you could do his bit, either way you will need the SE signoff otherwise building control won't accept it, unless you can prove in algebra that all is well.

 

 

[Scuba]

2 hours ago, MikeSharp01 said:

You could design the building and then let your SE create the structure - that is what our architect did. So you could do his bit, either way you will need the SE signoff otherwise building control won't accept it, unless you can prove in algebra that all is well.

 

 

Hi Mike,

 

already have the house plans, elevations layout etc, planning has been approved. Yes I need SE, the timber se I’ve been in contact with has given me a cost for structural side, but also wants me to use a timber frame designer, and I’m waiting for them to comeback to me, in the meantime I’m looking for other options/ SE / timber frame designer (if required?, from responses looks like I just need the se to handle it)

 

would You be able to recommend your se as you’ve built using the I beams ?

 

 Thanks 

matt

[MikeSharp01]

Our Guy is based in Kent, but I think he did a good job giving us almost all we wanted, some aspects were not possible and we have end up with a bit of steel in a couple of pillars to allow us to span the main space with gluelam beams. He was working with the Architect to get the frame design inside the envelope the architect drew, but once they had fitted the frame into the architects drawing it has been over to me. Will PM you his details.

[Patrick]

1 hour ago, Scuba said:

Hi Mike,

 

already have the house plans, elevations layout etc, planning has been approved. Yes I need SE, the timber se I’ve been in contact with has given me a cost for structural side, but also wants me to use a timber frame designer, and I’m waiting for them to comeback to me, in the meantime I’m looking for other options/ SE / timber frame designer (if required?, from responses looks like I just need the se to handle it)

 

would You be able to recommend your se as you’ve built using the I beams ?

 

 Thanks

I have used SE to design whole house structure from house plans. They didn't have a problem designing and calculating the entire timber frame and I followed @PeterStarck

Example of a Portal frame, which is a bit more challenging for the SE and was in our case difficult for Architects and Building Control involved as its an unusual one. Some timber frame companies use that method and sell you the ready packed house with all calculations and plans included - but this was too expensive for me. Same then MBC, what @Jeremy Harris

Suggested. Good one to get weather tight quick and all plans and SE calcs included in the package, but obviously to a price. What @Russell griffiths

Said about the I beam manufacturer designing his roof is true for most of the producers. I work with a ibeam manufacturer and they do the entire building design and specification and prefab the walls/floors/roofs they produce.

So you could try any I beam manufacturer to do that for you, have that stuff send to your chosen SE and put together into his/her full structural calcs.

If it was me, and I had decent road access (which I don't), I would mix between stick build and prefab. I would let ibeam manufacturer design all building and produce pre fab segments, then transport it to site and slot it together with carpenters. Board it and insulate it myself (or company) and then go ahead with the rest of it.

Obviously only possible if you're comfortable taking on main contractor role / project manage. But that's than down to how much risk you're willing to take. Been discussed elsewhere plenty of times : generally the cheaper you build, the more you have to do yourself and the less insurances are in place should stuff go south. The more you have everything covered by insurances/companies, the more the project will cost you.

 

[Gone West]

21 hours ago, Scuba said:

can anyone recommend a I beam Timberframe designer ?

 

A friend of ours designed their own house and had it built by Touchwood Homes and were very happy with it. It was built using timber I-beams and glulams. We designed our own house and worked with a timber frame company and SE to build a portal timber I-beam framed house. Although as @Patrick has said it is more challenging to design than a standard timber frame but it is easier to design out thermal bridges.

[Dreadnaught]

@Scuba, I heard back from my timber-frame designer. He is very much open to referrals, or just even a no-commitment chat or some advice, if that's something you'd welcome. PM me if you'd like his contact details.