ToughButterCup Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Putting my Geberit Sigma base unit in today, and I'd like to get this - to adapt Gerry Rafferty's words - Right First Time. A tall order because usually, its two steps forward and one or more back. The feet are meant to be bolted to the ground (concrete) with a hex-head structural screw marked 8.8, and they provide a Rawlplug - well its a Rawlplug on speed really .... (invented by a German I think ? but the inventor call it a Duebel) Is there a simple table somewhere which for each screw size, gives hole diameter, the size of plug need and the depth to drill the hole? Since this is for a loo, should I use some resin in the holes? I'd be most grateful if anyone could post a link. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Usually there's a number in a circle on the plastic and that's the drill size for the plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 If in doubt drill smaller and try it. Plug won't go in, open up to next size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Hmmm, the Germans expect you to know that .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 This might be of some use next time. http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/how-to/fasteners-fixings/wall-plugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: Hmmm, the Germans expect you to know that .... Not me - you - your the proportional German Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Hang on...the drill size for that plug is on the Geberit instruction sheet! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ferdinand Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Time for a tea break ! In the coop yesterday I saw an infusion flavour which was Turmeric and Star Anise, which I didn’t dare smell never mind purchase. That would reinvigorate anyone. Edited February 18, 2020 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 ? Arschloch bin Ich. Verzeiung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ferdinand Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Looking for a suitably consoling/encouraging quote, I had to rely on a German Translation as the Latin text is not out of copyright yet so not findable on the net. Quote Die Flüsse wissen das: Wir haben es nicht eilig. F (English : Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We will get there in the end.) Edited February 18, 2020 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: Looking for a suitably consoling/encouraging quote, I had to rely on a German Translation as the Latin text is not out of copyright yet so not findable on the net. F (English : Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We will get there in the end.) Must quote this to my wife when she says “ when will we be moving in ? “ . No need to translate her response to my reply ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 14 hours ago, PeterStarck said: This might be of some use next time. http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/how-to/fasteners-fixings/wall-plugs Thanks Peter. The table given there is helpful: in the table 10mm drill size takes a blue plug, whereas Geberit uses a light grey. Of course it helps if members who post here read the instructions. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 14 hours ago, Onoff said: @Onoff did you resin that screw in? I'm tempted to do that once every other job has been done. 14 hours ago, Onoff said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, AnonymousBosch said: @Onoff did you resin that screw in? I'm tempted to do that once every other job has been done. I would not worry to much Ian about using resin on the base attachments, it is the wall ones you need to make sure are solid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: @Onoff did you resin that screw in? I'm tempted to do that once every other job has been done. No, not the base ones. The top ones into the wall are Fischer resined in though. I ditched the Geberit wall brackets there. You can't see it here but there's a nut behind the Unistrut then that itself is bolted with another 3 resin fixings. Then I did things with hex stud extenders. Meant to put threadlock on everything but think I forgot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 14 hours ago, pocster said: Must quote this to my wife when she says “ when will we be moving in ? “ . No need to translate her response to my reply ... Working on your own, and listening to that oft-repeated question is starting to get to me. I've started replying "How long's a piece of string?" Going from a working environment where I really did have lots of control, a secure operational, strategic and policy overview of what I was doing to one where on site most days I work hard to make just a little progress: its wearing. If I hear that stupid saying "Do something today that you've never done before" once more ?. Thats what I do almost every single day. It makes you focus on the little stuff - on the nitty gritty detail. After a couple of years of that I haven't got the wherewithal to lift my head up and see the bigger picture. And at the same time I am well aware that we only just got planning permission - had we applied a month or so later, in all likelihood we would have been refused. The guy on the plot next to us was refused. He applied just a little after we did. Ah, stop moaning Ian. Just Bloody Do It. Thanks for the replies folks. Ian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Onoff said: [...] Then I did things with hex stud extenders. Meant to put threadlock on everything but think I forgot... Bloody Hell: there's summat new hex stud extenders. I'm gonna get some - the number of times I've needed a longer stud..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: Thanks Peter. The table given there is helpful: in the table 10mm drill size takes a blue plug, whereas Geberit uses a light grey. Of course it helps if members who post here read the instructions. ? Standard sized cheapo British plugs are coloured, efficient European ones tend to be plain grey. Cf Fischer, Lidl etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, dpmiller said: [...]efficient European ones tend to be plain grey. Cf Fischer, Lidl etc. I can see the difference in design - does it really make that much difference? I'll pop into Lidl and see if there are any for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Tongue slightly in cheek there, Ian. But I do prefer the extra barbed doodahs of the more modern plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 54 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: The table given there is helpful: in the table 10mm drill size takes a blue plug, whereas Geberit uses a light grey. I think this is just a UK semi standard. I've bought boxes of plugs which follow that rule but some manufacturers make their own for specific uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, dpmiller said: Tongue slightly in cheek there, Ian. But I do prefer the extra barbed doodahs of the more modern plugs. And then again, my dad taught me how to make wooden wall plugs ( stick, pen knife, whittle, hammer in, knock off) long ago. Don't suppose that would pass muster these days. Barbed doodahs for me from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, AnonymousBosch said: And then again, my dad taught me how to make wooden wall plugs ( stick, pen knife, whittle, hammer in, knock off) long ago. Don't suppose that would pass muster these days. Barbed doodahs for me from now on. I just make sure to light the matches before I shove them in the hole... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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