bassanclan Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 There must be something wrong in the corner. Have you investigated below? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 @bassanclan Not yet, there is nothing obvious from above, the bolted connection is fine and beneath the plastered ceiling is fine. I'll have a look this weekends. And where those wall meet in the corner they are not keyed in to each other. so they could move independently it looks like. This evening I have been trying to get though the ceiling under the joist supported wall. The pendulum is swinging back to taking the wall out as it is not sat on that steel beam. Back to this photo, there is a gap between the joist and the flange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 Dare I chance fate by saying it but a "competent" builder came and had a look and said that bit under the window will need rebuilding and potentially the outer leaf will be cracked too. Waiting for a price on fixing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennentslager Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Good luck Mr. Fingers crossed he's a good un Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 On 24 October 2016 at 19:36, Tennentslager said: Good luck Mr. Fingers crossed he's a good un I would not start hanging up the bunting yet. The quote is £1500 to fix the joists by mounting a plate in the beam web, rebuilding the small section of cracked wall under the window and replastering the 4 walls of the bedroom and making good the damage to the ceiling below. Any issues with the external wall which cannot be seen at the mo because of the new roof structure outside would be more. Not scandalous but not something easily to hand at the minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Is any of this covered by buildings insurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 12 hours ago, bassanclan said: Is any of this covered by buildings insurance? See that its caused by the clown of a builder, I'd assumed my insurance would not entertain a claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, daiking said: See that its caused by the clown of a builder, I'd assumed my insurance would not entertain a claim. This is a VERY broad brush statement but.......... If you have suffered a loss as a result of a third party and you are unable to claim from that third party then you should expect your insurer to accept that claim (provided the loss is within the terms of your policy). Expect to be able to demonstrate that you have tried to get redress from the third party. Give your insurer a call. Also be prepared to go past the FNOL team if you get a "computer says no" response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Barney12 said: This is a VERY broad brush statement but.......... If you have suffered a loss as a result of a third party and you are unable to claim from that third party then you should expect your insurer to accept that claim (provided the loss is within the terms of your policy). Expect to be able to demonstrate that you have tried to get redress from the third party. Give your insurer a call. Also be prepared to go past the FNOL team if you get a "computer says no" response. I don't know. Not seen or heard anything since January. Sent a recorded letter but it got returned. Gave it up as a lost cause. We had discussed the issue before his 'departure' but there has been no opportunity to make good not that I would be satisfied with his work in doing it. I wouldn't expect to get anywhere with an insurance company. now my missus is pushing to get it done, despite not having the money so I'm wasting my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidFrancis Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 This is a quote from Axa's buildings cover (which came up first in a Google search): "Accidental Damage does not cover loss or damage caused ... by or arising from faulty workmanship, defective design or use of defective materials" Many years ago I used to be an insurance broker & I'd expect most, if not, all policies to have the same type of exclusion. Under the same policy there might be cover under the Family Legal Protection section, if purchased, but the incident giving rise to a claim has to occur during the term of the policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 Off to an inauspicious start as the builder was/is an hour late so I've had to go to work without seeing him/them.Lets see the mess that awaits me later. Just trying to see if there's any 'details' I've missed in previous posts. The bolted beam connection was not exactly bolted tightly but the good news from looking through the ceiling from underneath is that there seems to be plenty of room between the steel beams to get at the back of the web to bolt on a wooden plate to hang the joists off properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 Day 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Brickwork looks nice and neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Tidier than usual aftermath too. Fair play, a lot of muck was taken from the ceiling cavity Just need to take out some redundant piping and route a smoke alarm cable tonight although not happy with some wiring I've seen. Edited November 9, 2016 by daiking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Do you want to post some pictures of the suspect wiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Is this old wiring or that which today's builders have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 I would post pics but photo bucket is being a PITA. Wiring is not work being done at the moment but has been done under my ownership but I couldn't tell you the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, daiking said: I would post pics but photo bucket is being a PITA. Wiring is not work being done at the moment but has been done under my ownership but I couldn't tell you the culprit. You can post pictures direct from your device you know. Just "Click to choose files" below where you're typing and navigate to where they're stored locally. I think there is a limit to how many you can do like this. Edited November 10, 2016 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Onoff said: You can post pictures direct from your device you know. Just "Click to choose files" below where you're typing and navigate to where they're stored locally. I think there is a limit to how many you can do like this. They're too big so need resizing. They don't hang about. Joiners in today to fix the joists and replace the floor, plasterers in tomorrow to finish. AND they're using hardwall not boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Lol, amd that loose end is blue and brown so it's been put in recently but no idea what it's doing. Edited November 10, 2016 by daiking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 You can download any number of free photo editing programs to re size them. But I thought the forum software re sized them when you uploaded them? you don't have much time to get an opinion and possibly get it fixed if the floor goes back down today. Can you delay the re laying of the floor. I am not sure what you mean by "hardwall"? do you mean big chipboard floor panels rather than boards? If so almost impossible to lift to get to the wiring later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 This was previously an oitside light so I'm just going to remove the spur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 It's hard to get a good photo but these joists are nowhere near the beam now. Being sorted today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, daiking said: Lol, amd that loose end is blue and brown so it's been put in recently but no idea what it's doing. That lot needs to be put in a junction box. And as it will not be accessible, it has to be a maintenance free type of junction box such as a wago box etc. That's a lighting junction, would previously have been done inside a ceiling rose. No doubt the light fitting below that hole in the ceiling was changed and there is not room inside it for the junctions. Don't let the floor go down until that is sorted, or if they must, make sure they leave a removable trap so it can be sorted later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ProDave said: That lot needs to be put in a junction box. And as it will not be accessible, it has to be a maintenance free type of junction box such as a wago box etc. Yes it does but no it won't. We'll do it via the ceiling at a later date. hardwall = wet plaster, not dabbed plaster boards Edited November 10, 2016 by daiking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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