ToughButterCup Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 The kind interpretation: its not their fault: the insulation is exposed. The harsh interpretation, the design wasn't fully thought through. Have a look ... Schematically, it looks like this The red dot area is my concern. That little bit of insulation seems to attract them - funny type of roughage innit? Anyhoo, if the chuck's don't eat it rodents will. How do I protect that 150mm gap from the local Random Ravenous Rodent ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I had some calotex stored outside and was unaware that the chickens were eating it daily..... by the time I realised what was going on it was to late and six died, have now moved the insulation. Your drawn picture show the insulation as being set back and mesh may work, but the photo looks like it’s set forward and mesh would not work ! Which one is right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 The drawing is the Full Monty as it were (when the cladding is on). The photo is what's there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom's Barn Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 wow just seen the picture; this does not look good. We have an insulated raft foundation but we are covering the outer edge with fibre cement board and behind that will be a vapour barrier. What is the block on top of the insulation (Durisol) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I think some aluminium, zinc or lead flashing round the bottom would work well. You could fix this to the Durisol. It will finish the base off nicely. You could have it run behind the bottom batten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Can you drive unused slates or similar in like a rockery edging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I also love chickens and have 6 in a large fenced area in the garden. Don't let them out anymore as the fox loves them more than I do. WRT dressing your insulation, I used a 200mm strip of Ubiflex (fake lead flashing) to cover the insulation - runs from under battens for render and over the insulated up-stand and into gravel. It has a gritty finish and I think it's made of bitumen covered steel mesh - so flexible but tough. Comes in a few different colours and there are also cheaper versions from different brands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I asked the Duke of Wellington’s Ghost. ”Foxes, Ma’am.” (Gets coat.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Tom's Barn said: [...] What is the block on top of the insulation (Durisol) ? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: [...] WRT dressing your insulation, I used a 200mm strip of Ubiflex (fake lead flashing) to cover the insulation - runs from under battens for render and over the insulated up-stand and into gravel. [...] Top man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Punter said: I think some aluminium, zinc or lead flashing round the bottom would work well. You could fix this to the Durisol. It will finish the base off nicely. You could have it run behind the bottom batten. ?? Now, I need to find a church roof ... somewhere local will do .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom's Barn Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Bitpipe said: I also love chickens and have 6 in a large fenced area in the garden. Don't let them out anymore as the fox loves them more than I do. WRT dressing your insulation, I used a 200mm strip of Ubiflex (fake lead flashing) to cover the insulation - runs from under battens for render and over the insulated up-stand and into gravel. It has a gritty finish and I think it's made of bitumen covered steel mesh - so flexible but tough. Comes in a few different colours and there are also cheaper versions from different brands. I really like the Ubiflex suggestion. In fact I am going to use Ubiflex extreme under my fibre cement boards and with this as the covering material for the insulation I will not need to cover over the expansion gaps. Thanks for sharing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 hours ago, AnonymousBosch said: ?? Now, I need to find a church roof ... somewhere local will do .... Ubiflex is the poor man's version of lead flashing Now I would have been a bit more smug had I though to apply the Ubiflex before the render went on, but I hadn't thought of it then. I did do it before the garage got rendered and it worked great. Now have 40m of ubiflex to apply to the main house but luckily for me, the render is (hopefully) getting replaced so I can nick in and do it all properly this time. Every cloud etc.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Ubiflex is also graded by flexibility. The inflexible ones are .. inflexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: Ubiflex is also graded by flexibility. The inflexible ones are .. inflexible. https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/product/ubiflex-non-lead-waterproof-flashing-black-200mm-x-12m-33mm-thick.html This is what we used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 If you have a look at Jeremy blog, and stones and Peter stark I think you will find some better answers than the fake lead, I cannot see how you can make that look sharp and crisp, I think it will always look like a roll of something. I think there are a few on here who have used a folded flashing made from aluminium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Check out the brochure. https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/user/u/pimp/uploads/attachments/2/ubbink-ubiflex-range-brochure.pdf B3 is 3.5mm thick. B2 is 2.3mm thick. And you get 3 colours at least .. black, great, terracotta. The first tIme I used was on the roof of a sun lounge to join corrugated to the house wall. Used B3 as this was back’ in 2013 or so. More recently used B2 for a similar role on a car port. Just look at the various options before choosing. I found the B2 easier by far to work with. There are also vids around. F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Has anyone suggested rendering it yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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