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"New" one all in and working. Still have to drop the handset to get the pump to kick in but hey ho. Cheers all.

C***TS! Box was open. Said so and had a quick check everything was there. Lad said it would just have been where someone wanted a look. Opened at home and it's pi$$ed out water! Well it's going in in a minute with a rocket up the ar$e email to Screwfix.

Point taken!

Even cheaper: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chrome-Thermostatic-Bar-Mixer-Shower-Valve-Round-Tap-Bottom-Outlet-Shower-Hot-UK/132868219244?

It's an extra £30!!!

Probably grab one of these cheapies: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Modern-Thermostatic-Exposed-Bar-Shower-Mixer-Valve-Tap-Chrome-Bottom-1-2-Outlet/252711103171?

Yes it sometimes works fine other than having to drop the handset to the tray to get the pump to kick in. Nothing changed when I did the pipework for downstairs. Assuming all these bar mixers are similar than should the hot or cold come in at the larger cartridge end which I assume is the thermostatic end? Cheers

Sorry. It wasn't regulating temperature which was why I started this. Apologies if not clear. The height thing is a given since day one. Just fished the mixer bits out of the descaler and reassembled. Testing it now and the point where the hot comes in is proper hot. The mixer is regulating temperature seemingly but the outlet is only getting lukewarm.

4.5.1.....Hot on the left and Cold on the right. If viewed from the front I've done that. 4.5.3.....The flow control (14) should be on the left, the temperature control (8) on the right and the outlet underneath. And I've done that... No mesh filters fitted anywhere btw. Maybe last time I swapped the blue and red inlets over? Got all the bits in a bucket of Kemiscale-P. Hope it doesn't eat the rubber bits!

Or turn the mixer upside down so the outlet is out of the top? If I swap the flexis over it has a knock on effect for the new downstairs mixer that is all hard copper plumbed in. (Not insurmountable). But back to the earlier theme, I have the COLD coming into this inlet, is that right or wrong?

The outlet being the handset?

Deffo the pipe with the red tape on gets hot: Found the mixer instructions amazingly. "Hot on the left and Cold on the right" but viewed from what side?

I could just swap the flexis over?

Did I make a mistake a little while ago? As original: Now. Same as. Pipe on the left at the top goes to hot. Pipe on the right goes to the cold.

Just went for it with the adjustables! Undid the mixer: First oddity is it seems hot is going to the cold inlet and vice versa. Is it possible these are the wrong way around? The cold inlet has a small for the cartridge: And the hot cartridge inlet is larger: All the parts: If it comes to it I can move the mixer down: (This is all eventually going..."my" eventually! )

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A little I guess. My "trick" sometimes when it doesn't get hot is to take the shower head off and let it run into the tray, that sometimes works. On occasion I'll then have to have it running full pelt and stick my thumb over the hose end. Hold it there for a few seconds and release, hold it & release. I'll find out the pump make later - (access is through the eldest's bedroom). I remember there was a NewTeam shower pump there originally and I replaced it with this one as it said it was OK for a 25gal cws tank.

I make it 820mm drop? Still I guess not enough? I should add the pipes go up from the pump, across the top of the dormer and down to the mixer.

Sometimes...very rarely. That's when you have to drop the handset to tray level. Yes, gravity. Done the quick sketch below. No chance of raising the CWS tank as it's right against the rafters. Could likely lower the mixer. Only got 3mm, don't think even long nose moles would get in to grip the thread that's turning.

No mesh filters that I recall when I took this off a little while back... ...no I didn't flush everything out... The hot pipe coming in is real hot as is the rear of the mixer...that side. At each end, screws under little removeable caps. I could only undo the assembly (cartridge) where the hot comes in. Couldn't budge the cold side. Trying to take the mixer off and the cold side would unscrew OK but the right would turn along with the threaded bit behind in this generic shot.

How's that done then? Thinking to isolate and take the bar off and de-limescale it.

Full story...always been a pain. To get the pump to kick in invariably you have to put the handset in the shower tray. Hose comes out the bottom. Same pic below (as the one above) is typical of my (Bristan) mixer: This is the rear: So in my case cold is going to the inlet nearest the temp dial with the "override" button on. No original instructions and no red dot sticker. Easy enough to swap over if it's wrong as on push fits. But is it wrong as is?

With the thermostatic bar type mixers beliefs it always the case that hot feeds the inlet nearest the little red button? Just wondering if ours has been plumbed in the wrong way round since day one. I changed the bar mixer like for like.