scottishjohn

ok so what you you consider the right price for a 3 bedroom home should be , if building from scratch to all modern building codes £ 50k -100k-200K -then price of land most people will have to spend a good portion of thier life to pay that off whats your solution

izodom2000 also supply curved sections ot your spec

especially where that is not as though barratt homes isvgoing to want to build an estate

I understand that only too well which is why we have planning telling you what you can and cannnot build . @RichC was wanting no planning control -so anyone can build anything anywhere --which is where the tinker comparsion came from ,cos thats what you would get if you did away with planning and building control

I definatley think we ought to use brownfiield sites first --but that croft would not fall into the catagory for brownfield , but yes i would let anyone rebuild any ruin to modern spec but i,m not planning dept that would definatly be in the abandoned section i think and has "returned to nature "

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so i buy house next to green belt and half the price isdue to its view of land that cannot be developed and you as some sort of hippy tinker want to build next to me I,m an individual --so what about my rights and devaluing of my house . the system has its flaws but you basic idea of being able to build anything where ever you want is just not viable or fair to the rest of the community but I do agree the PP put tooo many constraints on the style of a building an indivual wants to build on his own land and seem ot refuse designs ,just because they are not in keeping with others aorund same area. here they have a prevalence for limitng new builds to one and a half stories - even if there is no one that can over look the house .individuality should be encouraged . only way you get 2 storys is fi you are replacing one that was that way before 2 storeys should be encouraged even if only on the grounds of evironmental damage -and energy usage bungalows are not an efficent usage of roof and foundations same as earth shelterd should be -but I have seen 2 of these refused here smae goes for insisting on wooden sash and case windows in old"b" listed buldings-wood will never last like modern materials especially when you can get wood grained pvc at a fraction of the price and if the old wooden ones were painted --why should you use wood ,cos you can,t tell the difference when its painted

because they are trying to build on green belt which is for agriculture -so it must be viable to comply I don,t make the rules or even agree with them sometimes,

thats the point ,you need to make them good fit -time consuming, or they will loose insualtion value as well as being leaky which is why alot go for bats as they more tolerant of fit any holes in membrane need to be sealed as would electrical boxs etc --any penetration of membrane

Is there not something you can get like car body underseal,but not bitumastic ,as that would melt foam maybe builders foam would do ,but would be very messy i think that you could just spray all the gaps and joints with a shutz gun .seems like a gap inthe market if no one makes something very quick to to do I would worry that foil tape over time might come away from the studs you stick it to-

looked no link to PP-so it does not have FULL PP --just you can reapply --good luck with that

got a link? --to see what they allowed , out of interest certainly no chance down here of getting PP on that

If you paying men to do it - maybe spray in foam insulation might be a good alternative I was quoted £30sq m for closed cell foam sprayed in for equivalent of 140mm PIR -open cell is cheaper -that would be after first fix -job done in a day usually and it will make house totally air tight -which is not certain with other types get a quote would be my suggestion ,unless you already bought all the insulation might be an option

I was considering the quarry as a fish farm + holiday chalets --that would cut it and then build another house at top of quarry as "managers house". with same views as my one lots of ideas --just not enough time and money

planning use 30 acres as minimum land required to be economically viable as a general rule now in my area in scotland no doubt if you going to have battery chickens that might cut it down a bit, but the"good life" with 5 acresof crap ground will not get you PP round here you need to prove it will be commercially viable if you PP on those terms and you need to show a NEED to have people on site --so a big "tattie field " won,t cut it

you could buy as sips panels ? thinner layer of PIR between existing OSB and sips panels -mechanically fix no problem you can buy 200mm sips panels ,so maybe one layer of them is enough? and you know my view on edpm after seeing the holes crows pecked in it on a flat roof where they brought up bits of food to eat it GRP all the way for a flat roof

this is the usual gobal type statement that has no meaning in reality to the most of the uk we don,t have the prairies or the stepps of russia or the very small agricultural systems of so many under delveoped 3rd world countries

and that statment shows how much you know of farming in all but the flat lands of england like to see you automate sheep and live stock famring in the hills -or fruit and veg picking -they would have already done it if it were possible not to mention the animal and wildlife deserts that automated 100acre field type of farming causes

take that jetty part of my property 30acres -now if planning would allow you could build 360 houses at 12 to the acre- and I would very happy to sell it to a developer at 10k a plot - LOL theres all the housing you need at cheap prices but I can guess what they would say --no need for that much housing --, we need coucils to be able to allow such things if plot prices are low enough ,they could even be involved by buying it to start with and controlling things theres your social housing problem sorted I remember when councils had direct works dept ,that did just that

that then brings us to the next big problem spralling conurbations with the very real possibility of all the paper pushers working from home or indeed anywhwere in the country we need to spread population +work places out and not keep cramming them in s/e of england or the central belt of scotland -that will improve air quality and life quality and cut down on commuting there is a minimum size of a village /town that can be long term viable - and plenty of space to make it happen as for cheap housing --that would come if more sustainable jobs were in the country side and not just crammed into cities genral house prices in my area shows that we need more housing even if its for holiday homes or retiring peole -as that will make more employment for the services industries that are not forestry ,agriculture or tourist based

at least one per year and or a percentage and providing enough services

so village must be at least 100 dwellings then -- that would not work either It should be purely on the avialability of services --eg enough water capapcity

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I could go off grid as the origininal water supply will need major upgrades ,as it was water from a sort of stream it starts as a spring which was stone culverted and comes to my ground through a hole in a dyke the spetic tank was built like a drystone dyke ,so would just leak out of the sides -obviously that will need to be replaced with modern system -, mains electric is possible at a price as is mains water - that would need pump station to lift it 300ft up to the house --but none of these have caused planning any problem so far and all of them are really BC department not planning change of use will be your biggest hurdle if you are trying to turn a derilict barn or piggery ,farm building into a house-that is planning who decide and that needs to be sorted before you do anything at all to the site

in scotland you must have full walls to where the roof would fix and then it is possible to ask to rebuild it with out full walls it is unlikely you will get a simple PP -to rebuild If it still has a roof as well then maybe only building warrant is needed ther are lots of other things they will throw at you . and of course all must be to latest build codes has the ruin returned to nature -eg trees growing up inside it --that will be a big problem if it has --so trying to rebuild something that was last in use 200years ago --will not happen usually ,unless it is of historic interest --don,t go there when was it last habitated? mine was last lived in in 1966 and had a roof till 1975 -there is a cut off point inscotland -not sure of date --about 1960 I think --but check If it is listed, as my other one i have for sale is then you can make it wind and watertight without any permission ,as that is deemed as protecting the fabric -then you would start with PP +BC about what you wish to do One thing I did find out is that if it was built before 1947 ,then you can apply to double the footprint of the building . I certainlty don,t want to make mine bigger --pprobably will be smaller --but remember once you give up foot print you cannot get the unused bit back without more planning and maybe not then and once you have permission to rebuild it --you can then apply for a different build in a different spot within the curtiledge of the the exsisting plot - thats when planning really get involved and the arguments start with them none of above has anything to do with services being avaialbale or in working order . If it could at a strecth it could be classed as habitable --then its only building control -building warrant you need to rebuild whats there to current building spec there wil be lots more things ,so i would always suggest you take professional advice right at the begiining of buying an old ruin -money spent then will be well spent this is all info I have gleened from my chase of this property over the years starting point when was it last lived in ,does it have full sound walls ,got a good access to a road. I know of a nice ruin ,but its old track comes down to the main road A75 ,but there is no actual opening toa75 from the track there cos it was so long ago it was used --and its on a bend no chance of getting a new entrance onto this main road -so you would need to make your own road through farmers field s and then get permission to join a "u" road --so not viable in my view