Jump to content
  • entries
    21
  • comments
    156
  • views
    15301

Jenki

1601 views

The story so far.

My background of building has helped; our modest budget dictates the house will be modest and simple.

Highland planning guidance wants single or 1.5 storey houses, ideally traditional looking, or architecturally beneficial.  Architects as a whole are probably the most important people to take Ideas and turn them into a deliverable home.  Unfortunately an architect for us is unaffordable.

 

We have a budget, and we have to squeeze and leverage every penny from it. So doing away with every fee / service we can has to become a mindset.

So we sketch out our plans, make paper models for floor space, list what we want, we need then categorize these into must haves.

Our must have boiled down to:

 

2 bedrooms, Office space, utility / boot room, WC in / near the Boot room for when were outside, Kitchen, Lounge, Bathroom

 

I spent hours reading blogs, and topics, researching timber frame companies and the like.

Once we had the outline we now needed the land.

We visited lots of crofts* for sale, some as little as 10K some with building some with houses with land from 1 acre and 50 acre.

Made enquires for electricity on 1 plot to be given an estimate of 30K for connection.

Eventually we put a cheeky offer in for the croft and after a bit of back and forth bought our croft.

 

I printed off lots of drawings from successful applications on the planning website, and used these as basis for the information we needed, to make the whole project possible we needed to add a couple of camping pods into the mix, and to this we needed lots of drawings and lots of information. I never asked for quotes as I knew we couldn’t afford somebody else to draw them. 

I have used cad before, a long time ago when I was in engineering, and to a lesser extent for building works (floor plans etc), but I had never produced scaled drawings.

 

I found the software Arcon Evo, and this seemed like a solution. I downloaded the trial and started messing around with it.  It’s buggy, but after a few hours I was thinking I might be able to pull this off, so I spent £300 for the full blown version, and set out drawing. 

 

The software is clever, you can make your own walls, similar to build up in a U value calculator, you draw in plan and it creates the 3d model.  Once you’re happy you can create plan elements, these are automatic and form the part of the drawings. You then add the plan elements to a plan. This is your final drawing.

For example,

You create North, South, East and West plan elements, and you can add dimensions, text etc.  You drag these elements into a plan called elevations.  If you change the floor plan all the plan elements and plans change dynamically.  But it is buggy in places so you have to check all is good.

 

As this was not just a house but pods we needed drawings showing the site elevations, landscape plans etc.

 

We now needed a land survey. The plot is 8hr 30mins approx. from our house so we put some feelers out for getting a land mapping done.  £1500-£3000 to produce detailed digital levels and dimensions.... 

 

We set off around 2pm on a windy day in July, with my trusty dumpy level, 100m tape and sighting staff, also some red flag metal spikes.  We arrived in Inverness around 9pm and stayed in a lovely B&B in Inverness for a mere £130 had breakfast at 7.30 we were on the croft for 10.30.

The plan was simple, walk around the area the house was going to be, look out to sea and make sure we position it for the best views (there are 2 houses and a stone barn between us and the sea).  Then from here get the levels to make sure the drainage works. And start measuring.

 

 

 

mistyview.thumb.jpg.b7da1220a91d3961327d74e50d7e6cdd.jpg

 

The sea harr didn’t help, I couldn’t see Mandy more than 35M away never mind read the staff.

We set our datum on the corner of the field on the road, we measured in 10M increments to the position of the house plot around 80M in then created a grid of 10M sq 40M x 50M, using our little metal red flagged sticks to mark the way.

I had to reposition the dumpy level a few times due to visibility and used previously measured markers to re-define the datum.  An hour or two later cold and wet we had the measurements we needed. After a brew in a café, we set off home getting in around 10.30pm just shy of 1000miles.

Total cost around £300.

 

I created a full set of drawing, to include Floor plan, elevations, sections, site plan, pod plans, plot elevations, landscaping plan, 3d plan for the pods. -  

I sent in a Pre planning application, this is a little thing in Scotland where they like you to ask in advance for planning before you ask for planning.  Pre planning took 8 weeks, and was a report saying in general it seems ok, they would need more info on X and Y and drawings for A & B. with this I changed and amended the drawings and put forward my full planning application.

I did get the feel that me not being an Architect, did rub them the wrong way, but after a few discussions and changes here and there planning was granted around 8 weeks later. so home drawn plans can and do get planning approval....

 

I have been asking questions on this forum and reading posts / blogs so added my Introduction with the plans..

The feedback was generally positive, but the big black cloud was the post from @ProDave  with regards to the problems he has had with the render on Wood fibre approach. This is the blog I found to work and copied the methodology. How did I miss the posts regarding his troubles?

@Russell griffiths, and others also got me thinking about the exposure, so a few restless nights with the calculator and looking for options, we plan to change the external finishes; the planner has been responsive and sees no issues with my request to change the external to Fibre cement boards (Hardie Plank). And also change the roof from Metal roofing sheets to Forticrete SL8 thin leading edge concrete tiles.

 

These changes will give a cavity between the rain shield and wood fibre that I will wrap with Breather membrane.

That brings us to present day.

Now waiting for the formal quote for electrical connection.

And an issue with the water main  being made from Asbestos concrete running across our proposed entrance, so we need some trial holes before they make a decision on what needs to be done…..

 

Shopping List:

JCB Backhoe loader

Static caravan

portable storage

small touring caravan - cheap as chips - this will be lived in by me for a few weeks at a time until we can get access,  water, power and drainage for the static sorted.

 

 

 

 

*A trap we nearly fell into is if you buy a croft you need to follow the rules and work the land, you are bound by these, there are upsides of available grants for help, and this is the bit you need to be careful about.   If you buy part of a croft i.e. 2 acre, you’re still bound by the rules, but you won’t be able to apply for grants as the original croft will by default have this entitlement.

You need to own the whole croft, and as far as I know this is a minimum of 4.5 Hectare, (11.2 Acre) to be able to apply for grant assistance.

 

  • Like 2

8 Comments


Recommended Comments

Try GNR Sutherland at Edderton for static caravans (and touring vans but I doubt they have cheap ones like you want) , I am not sure if there is a dealer further north. Easy to call in and have a look next time you are going up or down.

 

Don't get a JCB, get a tracked digger minimum 3 ton, much less likely to get bogged down.

Link to comment
48 minutes ago, ProDave said:

Don't get a JCB, get a tracked digger minimum 3 ton, much less likely to get bogged down.

At 3 tonnes it will be harder to nick and something on wheels that can simply be driven away.

 

Maybe ask on here (main tread) if anyone has a mobile or static caravan for sale.

Link to comment

There is a grant scheme for assisting with the cost of high electrical connections in the North of Scotland. If your connection cost is high it may be worth a look. There are certain conditions attached.

Link to comment

Appreciate the concerns with a tracked digger vs loader. but  I've got loads of material to lift  / move. the loader will help move the 30+ tonnes of stone required for track / house. easily 30Tonnes of spoil from the stripping of the land, 80M trenches etc..

Loader will help move materials for the house build i.e. plaster board, insulation, tiles osb etc. and also raise the walls for the house- this is self stick build on site. also moving trusses etc. 

The land is an old quarry, our percolation test hit bedrock at 400mm,  so bogging down not too much of an issue, although is a concern. 3 tonne machine wont do half of the work.

every penny we spend need to pay its way..... insurance is our backstop on it being nicked...

 

 

Link to comment
2 hours ago, ProDave said:

Try GNR Sutherland at Edderton for static caravans (and touring vans but I doubt they have cheap ones like you want) , I am not sure if there is a dealer further north. Easy to call in and have a look next time you are going up or down.

on my list, thanks?

Link to comment
2 hours ago, jamieled said:

There is a grant scheme for assisting with the cost of high electrical connections in the North of Scotland. If your connection cost is high it may be worth a look. There are certain conditions attached.

Thanks will look at this. The croft grant scheme also maybe able to assist.

Link to comment
7 hours ago, ProDave said:

GNR Sutherland at Edderton for static caravans (and touring vans but I doubt they have cheap ones like you want)

They do quality  at the right price. but they also have very tired ex-holiday units round the back cheap: but need a lot of work. Worth asking.

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
14 hours ago, jamieled said:

There is a grant scheme for assisting with the cost of high electrical connections in the North of Scotland. If your connection cost is high it may be worth a look. There are certain conditions attached.

 

We're not eligible but thanks..

Not Eligible to apply

  • No assistance can be given for connections to property which is used for a commercial or semi-commercial operation.
  • Applications solely for deviation works are outwith the remit of the Trust and will not be considered.

 

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...