April 20Apr 20 We are at the final completion. The BCO has asked that our bin store has a gully? We questioned why and he said if you wash the bins there is somewhere for the water to run away. We live in 38 acres, with a small bit of permeable paving the rest grass, this seems strange to us, anyone else had the same request? As always, look forward to you knowledgeable people coming back to me. Also Car Charger, we have an outlet and an MCB marked as "Car charger" for the outlet, don't have an electric car so don't want to install charger as we don't know what one we will need when the time comes, will this be acceptable? Thank you
April 20Apr 20 Can't comment on the charger but the gully seems a bit ott. Never heard of that before.
April 20Apr 20 No, push back on the gulley. There is no reg that says you need a gulley for a bin. For a single dwelling this is silly.
April 20Apr 20 Our BCO insisted we had the actual charger installed. She explained that she had been pulled up by her seniors for agreeing the installation wiring only on a previous project. Her private BC company wants to see the charger on the wall before a completion certificate is issued. Like the OP we have no EV. The bin gulley is a nonsense, never heard of that before. Wash the bins on the grass.
April 20Apr 20 2 hours ago, Caroline said: we have an outlet and an MCB marked as "Car charger" Is it an MCB or an RCBO? A picture would help.
April 21Apr 21 14 hours ago, kandgmitchell said: Our BCO insisted we had the actual charger installed. She explained that she had been pulled up by her seniors for agreeing the installation wiring only on a previous project. Her private BC company wants to see the charger on the wall before a completion certificate is issued. Like the OP we have no EV. The bin gulley is a nonsense, never heard of that before. Wash the bins on the grass. Can you buy dummy ones?
April 21Apr 21 EV charging can take place via a 3-pin plug if the outlet socket is correctly rated. If you do it through a regular one it can melt them over time. Is this just a regular 3-pin 230V house socket that is marked so that you know it's safe for EV use? Otherwise you don't need a special EV charger for each brand of car. An untethered 6kw wall charger with a type 2 socket on will be fine for all vehicles. There's a few around that still have Type 1 charging (mostly Nissans) but they just use a Type1 to Type2 cable to get around this.
April 21Apr 21 You can get a 7kW charger for £300-£500. Virtually all EVs have a type 2 socket, and that wont change any time soon. Only exception are the 1st generation Leafs, Zoes etc, so no worries about compatibility. Your spark has done all the hard work, dead easy to install the actual unit. Edited April 21Apr 21 by Conor
April 21Apr 21 In the UK, mandatory EV car chargers for new homes are now required under Part S of the Building Regulations since June 2022 I think the rules rules require smart car chargers to be fitted now? I remember that being discussed a while back, but I haven't checked. I was lucky enough to have my Type 1 fitted for free by the government long before I had an EV...
April 21Apr 21 Author Update, BCO said this re: Bin gully I emailed (his reply in red) why did he request it in the first place then! With regards to the gully for the waste bin. This was never included in the building building regs drawings, Ross inspected the drainage and a gully for bin was never raised. The bin store will be housed on the permeable paving so whenever bins are washed, the water will soak away through the permeable paving. That is fine, it is advised but not a requirement for single dwellings. Please just send photos of the bin store installed, thank you.
April 21Apr 21 4 hours ago, Conor said: Your spark has done all the hard work, dead easy to install the actual unit. Not necessarily... My EV charger required a DP (double pole) RCBO, which that Contactum one isn't, then that it be Type C which that one clearly isn't and also be bidirectional which again, that isn't. I guess different chargers might ask for something different...
April 21Apr 21 Id seriously be looking into a spares or repairs charger on ebay and fitting that to the wall. Surely he's not going to test it. Why the hell are these a mandated item on an individual build?! If you need one you will fit one. What possible reason is there for making people fit them? Edited April 21Apr 21 by Oz07
April 21Apr 21 Author 36 minutes ago, Oz07 said: Id seriously be looking into a spares or repairs charger on ebay and fitting that to the wall. Surely he's not going to test it. Why the hell are these a mandated item on an individual build?! If you need one you will fit one. What possible reason is there for making people fit them? I know. We have decided some BC don't seem to take notice of the major things but nit pick!
April 22Apr 22 East herts are my local authority. I had to spend a grand on a full EV charger install. I dont have an EV car.
April 22Apr 22 15 hours ago, Oz07 said: Id seriously be looking into a spares or repairs charger on ebay and fitting that to the wall. Surely he's not going to test it. Why the hell are these a mandated item on an individual build?! If you need one you will fit one. What possible reason is there for making people fit them? This reminds me of a major house builder who, in the early days of renewables installed PV panels on their new builds, they didn't however actually connect to anything, but when considered in conjunction with the regs, it complied!
April 22Apr 22 14 hours ago, Caroline said: I know. We have decided some BC don't seem to take notice of the major things but nit pick! It tends to be what they are good at or know. My BCO was very into cavity wall vents - didn't seem to care about anything else, even though I more than complied I had to buy a bag of retro-fit round vents, cut the back off them, and stick about 20 to my build - photograph them, then pull them all off again to get completion all because he claimed the vent bricks at the bottom would be sleeved into the solum, they were not, I installed them, and they were sleeved through the inner leaf, but as traditionally always was, open fully to the cavity too. I would stick something on the wall that technically complies. I even know of someone with a dead EVC - must be plenty of them about...
April 22Apr 22 2 hours ago, Post and beam said: East herts are my local authority. I had to spend a grand on a full EV charger install. I dont have an EV car. Insane
April 22Apr 22 20 hours ago, Oz07 said: Id seriously be looking into a spares or repairs charger on ebay and fitting that to the wall. Surely he's not going to test it. Why the hell are these a mandated item on an individual build?! If you need one you will fit one. What possible reason is there for making people fit them? They are mandated for all new builds because at some point everyone will be driving electric. They are rapidly becoming the norm. When you build a house you have to comply with the rules for those coming after you. For the same reason, if you update the house electrics (add a circuit or whatever) you have to comply with modern regulations and update other parts of the system as required by the latest rules at the time of installation. Other wise we'd all be still on rewirable fuses. "They work well enough, and are cheap, why should I have to change..." Etc, etc, etc 🙂 If it is still possible to specify a 'dumb' charger I'd do it while you still can. From long experience with electronics, the more basic it is, the longer it will last. Avoid anything that needs a WiFi signal to operate because it will become obsolescent before you blink
April 22Apr 22 Don't forget, if you have an EV charger fitted, you also need an SPD under current regulations. To be honest SPD are so cheap these days I don't know why they are fitted as standard with a new installation anyway.
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