Paslode 360Xi Framing Nailer Vs Paslode IM350+

[flanagaj]

Anyone able to tell me whether there is much difference between the two above nail guns?  The 360Xi has higher Joules, but the IM350+ appears to be more expensive.  Just want a nailer that will good for all of the first fix that I need to do.

Thanks

[BadgerBodger]

Funny question. I was weighing this up last night and ended up buying the 360xi 

 

so far as I could tell, there really wasn’t much in it. I think the 360xi has the premium gubbins (power, operational capacity at lower temps) and ties you to a lesser choice of 3rd party fuel cells but the 350 is (marginally) more expensive with a choice of cheaper aftermarket fixings. 
 

that was my fast take because I lost patience and didn’t want to waste any more time deliberating. 

[BadgerBodger]

I’ll report back next weekend when I’ve used it for lathing the roof. 
 

I figured I needed to use 90mm ring shanks for internal caressing to power won over anything else. 

[nod]

Hitachi(Hikoki)  is half the price and does the same job 

[Mr Punter]

I have a the paslode 350 but have seen a fair few battery only framing guns being used on sites.

[nod]

2 hours ago, Mr Punter said:

I have a the paslode 350 but have seen a fair few battery only framing guns being used on sites.

The Dewalt are very reliable and outperform gas in winter 

Little weighty on roofs 

[Thorfun]

2 hours ago, nod said:

Hitachi(Hikoki)  is half the price and does the same job 

I had the Hikoki. Misfired like crazy. Took it in for repair and was told there’s nothing wrong with it, they just do that. Got my money back and bought a Paslode. It’s not missed a beat. 

[SimonD]

I've got to go old school with a leftfield approach - I have several air nail guns used with a compressor. Yes, the air line can be annoying sometimes but it's all so reliable. The guns are fairly light weight and they'll run and run and run, even down to -6, then it got too cold for me.... I've also found the support fantastic - next day delivery on all parts and simple to fix.

[Oz07]

56 minutes ago, nod said:

The Dewalt are very reliable and outperform gas in winter 

Little weighty on roofs 

Kept mine for a year then binned off. Way too heavy.

 

I've got the 360 now. Its better performing but the gas is more expensive than normal. You can find deals on eBay.

[nod]

1 hour ago, Thorfun said:

I had the Hikoki. Misfired like crazy. Took it in for repair and was told there’s nothing wrong with it, they just do that. Got my money back and bought a Paslode. It’s not missed a beat. 

Friday gun 

[Gus Potter]

Make sure you get one that fires the nail sizes and type your SE specifies, could be ring shank. 

[nod]

24 minutes ago, Oz07 said:

Kept mine for a year then binned off. Way too heavy.

 

I've got the 360 now. Its better performing but the gas is more expensive than normal. You can find deals on eBay.

Yeah you see quite a lot of desalts for sale for that reason 

I’ve several Hilti masonary nailer Gasless now The gas use to freeze in winter 

[flanagaj]

1 hour ago, Gus Potter said:

Make sure you get one that fires the nail sizes and type your SE specifies, could be ring shank. 

Surely a SE will not tell you what nails to use.  

[Gus Potter]

1 minute ago, flanagaj said:

Surely a SE will not tell you what nails to use.  

Yes they do and I put this on my drawings and specification. You will find the nailing schedule and nail type, durability etc on any SE fixing schedule. 

 

The nails holding everything together are just as if not more important than the timbers say. 

 

It is fundamental to the SE design as different types of nails have a different performance. 

 

Ring shank nails have a different load capacity from a smooth nail, length and diameter of the nail is vital as is their coating for durability. 

 

From time to time I get asked to verify that what I have designed has been built.. I check the nails on site as the performance can be 30 or more % different!

 

Lots of builders cut corners here and use the wrong nails, they don't follow the edge and end distances that are specified on most SE drawings. They think they know best.. but they don't.  

 

Look, you ask your SE to do lean design.. then the builders comes along and says they are talking pish! At what point do you think.. hey this is more risk falling on me.. and I'm paying for all of this!

 

So in the context of buying a nail gun. Buy one that fires the nails your SE is specifying and make sure you / your  builder executes what the drawings say.

 

I have this on my website but take a little time to read this by Ruskin.

 

“There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person’s lawful prey. It’s unwise to pay too much, but it’s worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money — that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot — it can’t be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Oz07]

22 hours ago, flanagaj said:

Surely a SE will not tell you what nails to use.  

In my mind, that's exactly one of the things I would expect them to tell me. A fixings schedule. What's the point in employing them otherwise. 

Edited Monday at 18:28 by Oz07