Outward opening door

[G and J]

Has anyone got ( or know where I can get) an outward opening, part m compliant aluminium front door ...@craig ?

[G and J]

😳Tag not correct @craig

[MikeSharp01]

Most of the big 3G companies have them, ours is from Norrsken.

[G and J]

2 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said:

Most of the big 3G companies have them, ours is from Norrsken.

Ah.  We have talked to Norrsken and they told us we couldn’t have an outward opening door in aluminium.  Timber yes, aluminium no. 
 

Kloeber told us we weren’t allowed to have an outward opening door. (Coincidentally they didn’t appear to offer such.)

 

Turns out some triple glazing sales folk are like the old archetypal double glazing sales folk.   😕 

[JohnMo]

My front door is inward opening, all others (4x bedroom and french doors) are all outward opening. They get caught by the wind easily so be careful.

[Roundtuit]

Ours is outward opening, but composite with alu-clad frame from Rationel.

[MikeSharp01]

8 hours ago, G and J said:

We have talked to Norrsken and they told us we couldn’t have an outward opening door in aluminium.  Timber yes, aluminium no. 

Sorry yes ours is aluclad timber.

 

8 hours ago, JohnMo said:

They get caught by the wind easily so be careful.

Yes have a buffer with a locking stop on wide open and are looking at a damper to stop it moving too quickly. 

[Russell griffiths]

Would an outward opening door allow you to comply with the disability regs,

I personally would avoid one if you can, my parents had one and opening it on a windy day was a near death experience. 

[Mr Punter]

If I was a wheelchair user an outward opening front door would be a pain.  It is also bad for visitors as it opens onto them.

[G and J]

Thanks for replies so far.....door will be in a sheltered spot (inner corner) but wind issue is not something we'd thought about 🤔

[JohnMo]

2 minutes ago, G and J said:

Thanks for replies so far.....door will be in a sheltered spot (inner corner) but wind issue is not something we'd thought about 🤔

These are your friend 

https://amzn.eu/d/2A1Z9iM

[G and J]

3 minutes ago, Mr Punter said:

If I was a wheelchair user an outward opening front door would be a pain. 

Another good point.

 

4 minutes ago, Mr Punter said:

  It is also bad for visitors as it opens onto them.

Well would prefer a draw bridge but.......😉

[G and J]

2 minutes ago, JohnMo said:

These are your friend 

https://amzn.eu/d/2A1Z9iM

Will be great for personal door on garage (also outward opening!)

[Beau]

We have all outward opening doors and some are pretty heavy (wooden). Windage is most definitely a problem on occasion made worse as we are an exposed spot and the doors are larger than normal. After having had the door ripped out my hand on several occasions l came across these which are ideal as they absorb the shock and work as a catch as well https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B01MQH5L58?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title  You can get similar in the UK but at a far higher price.

Edited July 20 by Beau

[JohnMo]

12 minutes ago, Beau said:

well https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B01MQH5L58?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title  You can get similar in the UK but at a far higher price.

They look good. Just did an image search and they are listed on Amazon UK site also

https://amzn.eu/d/6z1PyQy

[Kelvin]

Our French doors (timber ali clad)  are outward opening and wind is a real problem at times. It has a built in door stay (pull the handle up and it locks the door at that position) The garage access door is also outward opening and in strong winds it’s really chuffing hard to open it. 

[Beau]

4 minutes ago, JohnMo said:

They look good. Just did an image search and they are listed on Amazon UK site also

https://amzn.eu/d/6z1PyQy

I did get them around a year ago and at the time there was nothing like this for sensible money in the UK. I need some more so thanks for the find

[Kelvin]

33 minutes ago, G and J said:

Will be great for personal door on garage (also outward opening!)

You can get integral door stays for garage access doors. Ours has one. You open the door past a notched hook at the top of the door and a catch slots into it locking the door in place. To disengage you push the door past the notch to release the catch. Our garage door is metal and I wanted it outward opening as it’s harder to break into. 

[JohnMo]

2 minutes ago, Kelvin said:

You can get integral door stays for garage access doors. Ours has one. You open the door past a notched hook at the top of the door and a catch slots into it locking the door in place. To disengage you push the door past the notch to release the catch.

Our doors have these, but, if someone opens door a bit and wanders off, and then the wind catches the door, the mechanism get ripped apart. Now have two doors with mechanisms that don't work because of this.

[Kelvin]

Yours must be slightly more sophisticated than the one we have as if someone did that it would just go past the notch. The issue with that door in the wind is it slamming shut rather than getting ripped open. It’s a heavy big thing as well so would knock you into next week. 
 

But you highlight exactly the problem when you have folk visiting and they do stuff like this because they don’t know how things work. The top hung Velux windows is another example. If you open them them enough for the wind to get under them they get banged fully open. We’ve had this happen a few times and it’s caused a fine crack in the timber in one corner. 

Edited July 20 by Kelvin

[JohnMo]

3 minutes ago, Kelvin said:

Yours must be slightly more sophisticated than the one we have

Possibly not, as the travel slot comes to an abrupt end with door just over 90 degs. That abrupt end breaks all the plastic bits inside and bends the metal parts as door slams open. Very poorly thought out design. Should really have a hydraulic ram to slow door down (similar to that linked by @Beau), then self latch.

[Kelvin]

Not so good then. There aren’t any plastic parts in the one on our door. 
 

Our bedroom doors are inward opening but are tilt and turn windows so not really designed to be used as doors other than as a fire escape. They don’t have a flush threshold so anyone that tries to step out trips over the frame going out or kicks the aluminium cladding coming in. 

[craig]

14 hours ago, G and J said:

😳Tag not correct @craig

I’ll have a look for you but out and about today with the eldest, if you want drop me a pm so I don’t forget.

[Kelvin]

5 hours ago, Kelvin said:

Not so good then. There aren’t any plastic parts in the one on our door. 
 

Our bedroom doors are inward opening but are tilt and turn windows so not really designed to be used as doors other than as a fire escape. They don’t have a flush threshold so anyone that tries to step out trips over the frame going out or kicks the aluminium cladding coming in. 

I’ve just had a look at the door. I’d forgotten it has a spring beyond the catch so it wouldn’t ever slam open like that. It might spring back and whack you in the face though. 

[G and J]

2 hours ago, craig said:

I’ll have a look for you but out and about today with the eldest, if you want drop me a pm so I don’t forget.

That's a really kind offer ....thank you

 

Comments have given us enough food fir thought, that perhaps we can pm you if we decide to do fir it, rather than risk you wasting your time? Thanks again