Jamo73 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I am being told that this wall being built next to our extension is of sufficient standard to pass building control and the test of time. I have challenged the builder who assured me it will pass building regulations ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Need more details. Wall construction, purpose, who is building what etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo73 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 (edited) It is part of a 13 meter wall that is going to be a two storey side/ rear building extension with a gable end and a pitched roof . It is being built by an individual small builder and monitored by Stroma building control . Hope this helps? Edited January 13 by Jamo73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 So this is the outer leaf of a cavity wall your neighbour is building? It's shit brickwork but if it's not yours and fence panels will cover it then where's the issue? Did you allow them access to build from your side or did the brickies have to build from the other side? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo73 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 Fencing is coming down . Bricks in the bottom picture are a boundary wall that the builder damaged whilst building the footings for the wall behind it. The wall behind that you can see in the other pictures is the outer skim of the neighbours 2 storey wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 It looks like they built it overhand as they did not have access. When the fence is down they could point it up or render it if you allow them access. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: It looks like they built it overhand as they did not have access. When the fence is down they could point it up or render it if you allow them access. +1. 2 hours ago, Jamo73 said: I am being told that this wall being built next to our extension is of sufficient standard to pass building control and the test of time. I have challenged the builder who assured me it will pass building regulations ! It is sloppy, even for overhand work. I'd approach the BCO and suggest that it contravenes Part 7 (b): Materials and workmanship 7.—Building work shall be carried out— (a)with adequate and proper materials which— (i)are appropriate for the circumstances in which they are used, (ii)are adequately mixed or prepared, and (iii)are applied, used or fixed so as adequately to perform the functions for which they are designed; and (b)in a workmanlike manner. Edited January 13 by Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Jamo73 said: I am being told that this wall being built next to our extension is of sufficient standard to pass building control and the test of time. I have challenged the builder who assured me it will pass building regulations ! For the record - I didn’t do this . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt_woulds Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Or, more discretely as it's not your problem, just inform the neighbour and allow him to take it up with the BCO. I'm not saying it's good, but I've seen far worse from 'brick technicians' laying overhand. An old-fashioned time-served craftsman 'brickie' would find this unacceptable, but there can't be more than a handful of breeding pairs left in the country... probably extinct by the end of this year! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 A breeding pair of brikkies … ok, I’m mentally scared now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I note that you have not answered the question so I’ll ask it again. Did you give them access to build it from your side or did you refuse ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 13/01/2025 at 19:36, Canski said: I note that you have not answered the question so I’ll ask it again. Did you give them access to build it from your side or did you refuse ? I’m guessing you refused then. We want to do a professional job but when people deliberately put obstacles in our way something like this happens. I’d have left the snots hanging. (Just saying)😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo73 Posted Saturday at 17:56 Author Share Posted Saturday at 17:56 Ah, is you that has actually built it then ? There was a fence in situ when the builder did this and they did not ask for access they just built it. I guess shoddy workmanship and construction is widely acceptable then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted Saturday at 18:27 Share Posted Saturday at 18:27 31 minutes ago, Jamo73 said: Ah, is you that has actually built it then ? There was a fence in situ when the builder did this and they did not ask for access they just built it. I guess shoddy workmanship and construction is widely acceptable then? You popping at my build fella ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted Saturday at 22:52 Share Posted Saturday at 22:52 On 13/01/2025 at 12:40, Jamo73 said: I am being told that this wall being built next to our extension is of sufficient standard to pass building control and the test of time. I have challenged the builder who assured me it will pass building regulations ! Why wasn't the fence taken down and permission given for access, eg so they had a fighting chance of doing at least a better job than that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted Sunday at 11:21 Share Posted Sunday at 11:21 If there are concerns about longevity of this wall, your neighbour ought to be even more concerned than you are. I'd start by talking to them and offer access to your side for the builder to improve it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo73 Posted Sunday at 12:18 Author Share Posted Sunday at 12:18 Neighbour is 86 and doesn’t appear to be concerned about what is occurring, presume he’s here for a good time now not a long time! Referring back to the original question which nobody seems to answer, will it pass building regulations with the damp proof course bridged or not there and large gaps in the mortar beds and sometimes no mortar in the perps and without any pointing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted Sunday at 12:46 Share Posted Sunday at 12:46 27 minutes ago, Jamo73 said: the original question which nobody seems to answer https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/topic/42270-unbelievable-brickwork-will-this-pass-building-control/#comment-596598 Maybe I was using invisible ink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted Sunday at 13:34 Share Posted Sunday at 13:34 1 hour ago, Jamo73 said: Neighbour is 86 and doesn’t appear to be concerned about what is occurring, presume he’s here for a good time now not a long time! Referring back to the original question which nobody seems to answer, will it pass building regulations with the damp proof course bridged or not there and large gaps in the mortar beds and sometimes no mortar in the perps and without any pointing? It’s down to opinion unless the BCO is called to site as a complaint? It doesn’t have to look pretty to be functional, in a nutshell. Damp course being bridged = not your concern…perps missing or poorly executed = not your concern… If it falls over and squashes you, then it becomes your concern. You claim on their insurance, after the event. Once the fence goes back up, do you actually care about this? I can’t see why you would, but if it’s an eye-sore then just add a trellis header to the fence and worry about things more important to you? Please don’t read that as me being sarcastic, I am not, just perhaps a reality check and taking you off the boil to reevaluate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo73 Posted Sunday at 15:24 Author Share Posted Sunday at 15:24 Thanks nick. Was hoping the fence wouldn’t be needed when the wall was built as it’s so close to the boundary. Our real concern is we want this house to be a forever home and the higher the wall gets the worse the workmanship and I can’t see it lasting the test of time. This will no doubt become our issue after the neighbour has gone and it needs replacing in the future as over half this wall is alongside our house and is not accessible to carry out repairs from either side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted Monday at 19:40 Share Posted Monday at 19:40 Allow them to scaffold your side and pay to have it rendered. Problem solved ! Try painting an 8x 4 sheet of vertical plywood from the opposite side to the paint. You may finally see my point then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted Monday at 22:04 Share Posted Monday at 22:04 It could be worse. I spotted this on the way home today. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted Tuesday at 07:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:59 9 hours ago, Canski said: It could be worse. I spotted this on the way home today. What’s the problem? , is the door not level ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted Tuesday at 10:18 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:18 2 hours ago, Pocster said: What’s the problem? , is the door not level ? I think there’s a couple of perps which are shy of mortar, door looks A1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted Tuesday at 10:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:19 Just now, Nickfromwales said: I think there’s a couple of perps which are shy of mortar, door looks A1 Ah yeah didn’t notice that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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