canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) We have a hiccup with the block paving. For some reasons or other the builder has had issues with getting the same bricks from the initial batch they used (not sure if its builder or supplier issue). As you can see this has resulted in a marked shading difference (the darker is the third lot that the supplier has attempted to match) and the builder laid these on Friday. We just aren't happy with the shading difference. The builder says he thinks these will fade but I'm not convinced and surely any fading will happen to both so they will always be different shades.... (He hasn't put the sand into the darker new bit yet) The options are either for the builder to ring around various suppliers and try and find the batch that was initially used, another suggestion he had was to split it and try and do some sort of pattern or something different to split it up (I'm not sure what as it's such a large area of block paving) or to fit it all and if it doesn't fade or look right he will come back later and sort (my least preferred option as just want it all done and sorted and I do trust the builder would do the right thing). Any suggestions please? If he splits it with some sort of pattern what would you do? Or would you just insist he gets the right batch... Edited May 25 by canalsiderenovation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Hoping to train chickens to avoid them sh!tting on block paving.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 This happens with bricks as well which is why same batch is import and even then mixing the pallets up so they are mixed helps. I think they will fade, mine did a lot (red), but might be worth trying to find the right batch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETC Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) Not even close! Rip them all up and start again. Edited May 25 by ETC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 25 minutes ago, joe90 said: I think they will fade, Were yours all from the same batch though? I'm worried if the darker ones fade so will the others so they will never match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 10 minutes ago, ETC said: Not even close! Rip them all up and start again. It wouldn't be all it would just be the part closer to the gate - as long as he could get the batch to match the existing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETC Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Give the contractor a pair of glasses. He should have stopped after a few blocks were laid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Just now, ETC said: Give the contractor a pair of glasses. He should have stopped after a few blocks were laid. Yes this was yesterday. He'd already lifted the same patch he had done before as the colour didn't match and then redid it again but this one seems even worse..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I don't think it is acceptable. Get the contractor to take it up with their supplier. They should all be from the same batch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Here's a better video. 20240525_103530.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I tend to agree with above about getting it up and builder should have sourced same batch (and mixed up pallets to stop this happening even with same batch). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 11 minutes ago, joe90 said: I tend to agree with above about getting it up and builder should have sourced same batch (and mixed up pallets to stop this happening even with same batch). Yes that's my gut is to get up the stuff he laid on Friday which is noticeably different... and hope he can get the same batch. I'll even lift the stuff! It's such a large area and it will hit you as soon as you drive through the gates.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 This happened at a previous place we lived with the common areas all blocked paved. They were all lifted and we mixed all the blocks up and relaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Even if they weren't the same batch and he had mixed them I don't think they would be that noticeable but at the moment it sticks out like a sore thumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu w Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) As said above, Personally I have found plasmor block paving very under par in the past especially in 50mm, I always use 60 but not plasmor Your block layer is either partially sighted or just don't care about the finish because he hasn't mixed the packs, even if he had with the colour differences it will still show Rip it up and use formpave/forterra for a far superior block and will last a lifetime Edited May 25 by stu w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, canalsiderenovation said: Even if they weren't the same batch and he had mixed them I don't think they would be that noticeable but at the moment it sticks out like a sore thumb. I thought it was best practice to mix the blocks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu w Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, Kelvin said: I thought it was best practice to mix the blocks anyway It is , and bricks , wall tiles , roof tiles, anything manufactured in batches , even same colour paints I mix together as they will always differ. Just a incompetent block layer or just don't care and just thinks about 💴💴💴💴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 7 minutes ago, stu w said: he hasn't mixed the packs, even if he had with the colour differences it will still show I believe he did mix the packs he had but then the issues came when he had to wait for the remaining packs from the supplier which came later and were a different batch. I may be wrong though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) So different that they may not even be the same spec of grey. On a positive, the dark ones will fade quite a lot, and real life dust willl disguise it a bit. There won't be any manufacturer's guarantee on colour. The builder should have mixed the batches. This is a fundamental thing in construction, and the only excuse is ignorance.! He could lift the blocks 0.5m either side of the change and mix them to reduce the effect. That sometimes makes a big difference. Edited May 25 by saveasteading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETC Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 The only thing I can think about is to use the different colour to mark out a path to your front door or car parking spaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu w Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 2 hours ago, canalsiderenovation said: I believe he did mix the packs he had but then the issues came when he had to wait for the remaining packs from the supplier which came later and were a different batch. I may be wrong though..... The supplier will wipe their hands of any issues if your contractors go back to them with this, they clearly state in their correspondence and its common knowledge always complete an area in the same batch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 23 minutes ago, stu w said: its common knowledge always complete an area in the same batch It wasn't to me. Always learning. Perhaps that is more about thickness as that will vary as moulds wear out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 35 minutes ago, ETC said: The only thing I can think about is to use the different colour to mark out a path to your front door or car parking spaces. We have thought about asking him to use the paler colour that was used as edging and at the front door to try and do some sort of pattern to break it up but I think it will just look disjointed as we have such a large area and there doesn't seem anywhere logical to do a break or any sort of pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Spray the whole lot with concrete dye. Or knock one of these over: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Pick out all the dark ones, then use them as letters to spell out what you are thinking. "Shit a brick" comes to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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