ProDave Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Alfapat said: I have set the flow to 51 and cylinder to 49 , so will see what happens. A bit more of a difference say flow 56 for cylinder 48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Alfapat said: Black isle renewables , who have washed their hands to repairing or looking after this. So "Air Source 1" let you down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, ProDave said: So "Air Source 1" let you down? Yes to be blunt , they agreed to take the system on with the approach of Freedom Pumps , charged me 4500 to correct the system installed by a Central belt company who went bust a year after install , and when I asked them to service it and find out about a fault it had E920 if I recall , they said they didn’t know enough about Samsung , so I didn’t phone them again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, ProDave said: A bit more of a difference say flow 56 for cylinder 48 Ok , so I’m watching Smart meter! 15 minutes ago, ProDave said: A bit more of a difference say flow 56 for cylinder 48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alfapat said: Ok , so I’m watching Smart meter! Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, Alfapat said: Yes to be blunt , they agreed to take the system on with the approach of Freedom Pumps , charged me 4500 to correct the system installed by a Central belt company who went bust a year after install , and when I asked them to service it and find out about a fault it had E920 if I recall , they said they didn’t know enough about Samsung , so I didn’t phone them again! Just what exactly did they do for £4500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, ProDave said: Just what exactly did they do for £4500? Barbados is nice this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Thomas Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ProDave said: So "Air Source 1" let you down? Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 50 minutes ago, ProDave said: Just what exactly did they do for £4500? So original plant was two pumps , not required they said , sold 9kw , reset 16kw with larger copper flow pipes instead of plastic, and further from wall. , better insulation , magnetic filter and glycol in fluid , plus a number of small things........ nightmare . Well you would wouldn’t you if you thought , finally it might work properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Nick Thomas said: Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Black Isle renewables have "Air Source 1" painted on their vans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 50 minutes ago, ProDave said: Black Isle renewables have "Air Source 1" painted on their vans. Didnt see the vans often enough lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 12 hours ago, Alfapat said: Ok , so I’m watching Smart meter! So Midnight after setting the flow to 55 degrees which is maximum with no hot water used the House 21.4 Outside 3.8 Hot water 39.2 Circ. 48 degrees Bath run ! Morning - House 8.30 21.5 Outside 3.8 Hot water 39.8 Circ. 41.5 Something not right. What else. I will check parameters/field settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I think you need to establish that it is switching from DHW to space heating and not trying to do both at the same time. It is normal, because of the limited power of a heat pump vs a gas boiler, to only do one at a time. So I would expect when it is heating the water tank, the space heating (I can't remember if it is UFH or radiators) goes off. Can you confirm that is the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 UHF ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 or radiators. You can't heat the DHW and the central heating simultaneously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Alfapat said: UHF ? Under Floor heating. How is the house heated? The point is working correctly when heating the hot water, the radiators or whatever heats the house should go cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ProDave said: Under Floor heating. How is the house heated? The point is working correctly when heating the hot water, the radiators or whatever heats the house should go cold. Ah OK, so no underfloor heating here. I will try and check that . I don’t know if this helps me or you guys. Edited January 14, 2023 by Alfapat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 That certainly suggests they should be valved to operate separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, ProDave said: I think you need to establish that it is switching from DHW to space heating and not trying to do both at the same time. It is normal, because of the limited power of a heat pump vs a gas boiler, to only do one at a time. So I would expect when it is heating the water tank, the space heating (I can't remember if it is UFH or radiators) goes off. Can you confirm that is the case? To determine the switch over then ,there should be no heat icon showing at top right of controller , would that be correct , similarly the water tank symbol should not be active if rads/heat is on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Yes I believe that is how it works but I have not used that controller. Confirm by the fact the radiators should go cold when it is heating the water tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 Ha, they are cold just now as no requirement for heat but monitoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Alfapat said: Ha, they are cold just now as no requirement for heat but monitoring. 4hours on Circ. 49.6 Hot water 39.6 . Just saying. Outside 1.8 c Radiators on 20 c NOT CORRECT . I will leave 55 flow and 48 DHW FOR a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Where are you measuring the temperatures and with what? If the water really is flowing into the cylinder at 49.6 then after 4 hours you would expect the hot water to be more than 39.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 The temps are from the controller GEN 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfapat Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 Ha, they are cold just now as no requirement for heat but monitoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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