IanMcP Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Hi All, Here we go ! Have planning approved for the attached. Plan is to be as Eco as possible without going full passive. The main house is new build, the existing bungalow being converted into a garage. Plans are fluid internally, it wasn't our approved design so changes will be made. GSHP , UFH , MVHR , seeming to favour ICF over SIP as I want to do as much as possible myself. Likely SIP roofing. Externally a mixture of zinc (maybe) , render and timber clad. It's off mains so waste plant going in. Full electric , sadly single phase so will struggle until we can get that ramped up. I'm looking to modify the designs to make it as off the shelf as possible and simple to build, for costs and my sanity ! What have I missed ? Thanks Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 welcome! looks like a wonderful project and I look forward to following your progress. one thing I'd say is does changing the existing bungalow in to a garage affect your zero rated VAT status? might be worth double checking with those on here that know more about VAT claims or HMRC themselves? good luck with it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcP Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Thorfun said: welcome! looks like a wonderful project and I look forward to following your progress. one thing I'd say is does changing the existing bungalow in to a garage affect your zero rated VAT status? might be worth double checking with those on here that know more about VAT claims or HMRC themselves? good luck with it all Still trying in by to figure out the VAT status. ??♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, IanMcP said: ... What have I missed ? ... Nothing. For now, enjoy the buzz. Remember it, film it, bottle it, keep it safe. Guy like you with a sensible name.... nay borra Jimmie! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I wonder if you will struggle with a gshp. I was going to put one in but the proposed ground loop covered every inch of my 1/2 acre plot. Can't put it near trees either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Zinc is expensive and difficult to DIY. ASHP seems to be the winner over GSHP. You could get it priced in brick / block (by others) with a tiled roof (by you). There will still be plenty of work to keep you busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcP Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: Zinc is expensive and difficult to DIY. ASHP seems to be the winner over GSHP. You could get it priced in brick / block (by others) with a tiled roof (by you). There will still be plenty of work to keep you busy. Yeah zinc will likely change. GSHP - got plenty of space. Why go air ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, IanMcP said: Yeah zinc will likely change. GSHP - got plenty of space. Why go air ? price? GSHP inside units are big so need a bigger plant room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Walker Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 7 hours ago, IanMcP said: Hi All, Here we go ! Have planning approved for the attached. Plan is to be as Eco as possible without going full passive. The main house is new build, the existing bungalow being converted into a garage. Plans are fluid internally, it wasn't our approved design so changes will be made. GSHP , UFH , MVHR , seeming to favour ICF over SIP as I want to do as much as possible myself. Likely SIP roofing. Externally a mixture of zinc (maybe) , render and timber clad. It's off mains so waste plant going in. Full electric , sadly single phase so will struggle until we can get that ramped up. I'm looking to modify the designs to make it as off the shelf as possible and simple to build, for costs and my sanity ! What have I missed ? Thanks Ian Take advice on the VAT front as I'm not sure it would/should qualify as new build unless the bungalow is demolished. I would have windows with less mullions. Bi-folds are overrated IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcP Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Adrian Walker said: Take advice on the VAT front as I'm not sure it would/should qualify as new build unless the bungalow is demolished. I would have windows with less mullions. Bi-folds are overrated IMHO. Agree on bi-fold. Previous experience means I’ll change them. The design and planning was bought with the land. So I will change things to my design and standards. on VAT yes I think the bungalow may have to go. No bad thing. Edited December 15, 2021 by IanMcP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 13 hours ago, IanMcP said: Agree on bi-fold. Previous experience means I’ll change them. The design and planning was bought with the land. So I will change things to my design and standards. if you're going to make changes like that I presume you'd need to go back to planning for a minor amendment. if so, may I suggest something? you seem to be in a very similar situation to us. we bought a bungalow that came with outline planning permission for a 1 1/2 storey house and full planning permission for a bungalow. we didn't want to build either but knew that planning were willing to allow a replacement building. So we got our own plans drawn up for the house we wanted to build and submitted a new planning application which also allowed us to live in the bungalow while building the house and then it demolish afterwards. it seems to me that you're willing to design things around these plans to fit in with what you want but the whole point of self-building is to build exactly what you want and not what someone else got planning for. I would seriously have a good think about starting a new application with a design that you want. yes, there'll be more professional fees involved but, unless it's a build and sell job and not a forever home, you might be thinking 'if only we did it this way'. just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcP Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorfun said: if you're going to make changes like that I presume you'd need to go back to planning for a minor amendment. if so, may I suggest something? you seem to be in a very similar situation to us. we bought a bungalow that came with outline planning permission for a 1 1/2 storey house and full planning permission for a bungalow. we didn't want to build either but knew that planning were willing to allow a replacement building. So we got our own plans drawn up for the house we wanted to build and submitted a new planning application which also allowed us to live in the bungalow while building the house and then it demolish afterwards. it seems to me that you're willing to design things around these plans to fit in with what you want but the whole point of self-building is to build exactly what you want and not what someone else got planning for. I would seriously have a good think about starting a new application with a design that you want. yes, there'll be more professional fees involved but, unless it's a build and sell job and not a forever home, you might be thinking 'if only we did it this way'. just a thought. you are almost correct. Appreciate the points as that’s why I’m here ! the design is 95% of what we would do. The 5% really is the personalisation and change of materials etc as we go. I will be going back for minor amends but that should cover it. Things like materials haven’t been dictated on the approval so we have flex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellski Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Hi Ian Do you have ICF blocks already? My ICF dream is now off the plan so I have sufficient Nudura for a 3000 Sq. foot house and double garage if this is of interest. Cheers Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSB Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Welcome to the forum, I'm also in Suffolk. 5 hours ago, bellski said: Hi Ian Do you have ICF blocks already? My ICF dream is now off the plan so I have sufficient Nudura for a 3000 Sq. foot house and double garage if this is of interest. Cheers Norman Norman, I'm having to submit new plans for lots of reasons, but if this is still available if they get approved then I will be interested, just can't commit now, so don't hold if you get an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) You could do something very impressive with 2 lots of sliding doors & a floating corner! Edited December 17, 2021 by Andehh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcP Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 55 minutes ago, Andehh said: You could do something very impressive with 2 lots of sliding doors & a floating corner! that would look nice. It’s all about the drafts and U value ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMcP Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 17 hours ago, bellski said: Hi Ian Do you have ICF blocks already? My ICF dream is now off the plan so I have sufficient Nudura for a 3000 Sq. foot house and double garage if this is of interest. Cheers Norman Norman , it is of interest. PM me details. Although I’m not sure which ICF I’m going with now. Think I can be more self sufficient with durisol. But overall price wins so worth a chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanmenie Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) @IanMcPIf you are considering Durisol have a look at Isotex its a much nicer block Edited December 17, 2021 by Chanmenie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanmenie Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) @IanMcP, I'm not far from you being in Norfolk, i'm starting my new ICF build in the new year. Not as grand as yours but nearly 200sqm I chose the Isotex ICF for its DIY friendliness as I also want to do a lot of the work myself. We are also making some changes to the approved plans like the external covering, i was intending to use brick slips but have given up on that idea as its a PITA, so considered render but now seriously considering cement cladding boards from James Hardie. I was told by planning to complete a variation of conditions application Edited December 17, 2021 by Chanmenie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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