Andehh Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 We are carrying out a knock down & rebuild. We are trying to work out if we inform the council now, to halt the 6 months of council tax payment but then get it revalued when we move in...... Or if we don't inform them proactively, pay the lower band council tax for 6 months & hope they don't revalue the property on completion.... Which will bump us up a few bands! Any suggestions on how best too approach this? Legal obligations are obviously the priority! Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Andehh said: hope they don't revalue the property on completion Good luck with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Surely you need planning permission to demolish and to rebuild, this info will be fed to the council tax department, nice try tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Doh! Was worth a try ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 it will be the completion cert that triggers the tax droids. Delay that as long as possible.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuesieG Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 hours ago, joe90 said: Surely you need planning permission to demolish and to rebuild, this info will be fed to the council tax department, nice try tho! ??? you mean one department talks to the other? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Dave Jones said: it will be the completion cert that triggers the tax droids. Delay that as long as possible.... That is a lottery how it works. Pre Covid I know the local council tax assessor was visiting our site roughly monthly to have a snoop about, first to see if we had moved into the static caravan, and then later to see if we had moved into the house. That stopped with Covid. It was me that informed the council we had our completion certificate and that triggered the house being valued and us paying council tax on that from completion day. I could have just waited but we figured even if it took them a long time to realise, it would still be backdated to completion day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benben5555 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Hi, what was the outcome of this? Did you keep paying the low rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 Good question.... No, we declared it as demolished for reasons I can't remember if I'm honest! I'll have a think without my gin & tonic and come back to you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seren161 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 even if you keep paying the lower rate..once you get a completion certificate..it usually triggers a revaluation..builder mate has an amazing mansion that is still “incomplete” so still pays lower tax band ..if you need the certificate though..just declare it demolished..we had to send photos of the site ,had a refund of overpayment ..and then wait for the new tax band wallop which will surely happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 Thanks Seren & in answer to the question...that's basically what we did. The difference in build before & after was going to be substantial enough that anyone would have spotted it with a cursory check, and the nature of the length of build meant it was going to be a long standing payment we'd need to make on very tight budgets (ie 2 x council taxes for 18 months...). As new Build, the council has plenty of paperwork to spot a revaluation need. We bit the bullet, declared it empty immediately & got a slight refund back dating it to when a fuse box was removed as we moved out. As the build is taking longer, it continues to have been the sensible decision to have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benben5555 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 27/10/2022 at 22:47, Seren161 said: even if you keep paying the lower rate..once you get a completion certificate..it usually triggers a revaluation..builder mate has an amazing mansion that is still “incomplete” so still pays lower tax band ..if you need the certificate though..just declare it demolished..we had to send photos of the site ,had a refund of overpayment ..and then wait for the new tax band wallop which will surely happen What is "the completion certificate" though. The only thing I'm aware of that we need is the final certificate from building control. We are using a private company for that and I'm not convinced our local council are that efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 25/11/2021 at 21:04, Andehh said: Any suggestions on how best too approach this? Legal obligations are obviously the priority! Search BuildHub for the term "hereditament" and you'll find some useful threads about when a council can legally charge council tax. The completion certificate may be the trigger for some councils, but they won't necessarily wait to see that before trying to charge you council tax. We didn't get our completion certificate until years after moving in, but they seemed to figure out the month we moved in, and we paid council tax from that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seren161 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 31/10/2022 at 07:11, benben5555 said: final certificate from building control. is the completion certificate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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