SuperJohnG Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I have 100m2 of Siberian Larch to buy for my soffits and large canopy. It was originally Red cedar but that idea is firmly out the window. The price has significantly increased, hard to tell after covid - some places saying double from 3.40/lm to 8/lm. Others saying approx 30%. I have been quite frankly fannying around as I don't want to spend the money right now for fear of price dropping in say January - but it could also swing the other way. Hence I tried to rationalise getting a lesser amount and doing the essential bits needing done from scaffold then buying more later and do it from a tower. I could get away with 20m2 just now, then get the other 80m2 later, but will get a better deal if I get the 100 and maybe just bite the bullet and pay for it all now. Worst case I think would be it could be £1000 cheaper if it ever dropped back down, but I don't think it will. I have kind of answered my own question but if anyone have any views of pricing - doesn't have to be fact, maybe just a view. Also quite happy to hear...that I shoudl stop messing around and just buy it. In terms of budget...it was shot ages I think so this won't make a massive amount of odds I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I think the timber price is steady now, perhaps discounts becoming slowly available, and will drop a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I read the title and expected a thread about a dodgy install and would it fall off the building. I'll get my coat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, saveasteading said: I think the timber price is steady now, perhaps discounts becoming slowly available, and will drop a little more. Got to agree, COVID gave suppliers an excuse to put prices up so they will not be coming back down to pre COVID levels, but there are good discounts to be had now supplies are pretty much back to normal, shipping costs are a pain with container shortage and inflated fuel prices. USA is still buying up much of the European supplies following the fires and increase in demand for timber. Edited November 12, 2021 by markc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Why not Scottish larch, lower shipping costs, buy straight from the mill, much more stable prices. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJohnG Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, JohnMo said: Why not Scottish larch, lower shipping costs, buy straight from the mill, much more stable prices. @JohnMo I think I had bypassed as it was all rough sawn more suited to board on board wall cladding, but I do actually prefer that colour as its closer to the red cedar look I wanted..I also notice you have it in your canopy, do you have any pictures of that? Also where did you get yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, JohnMo said: Why not Scottish larch Because they are charging what they can, quite reasonably. I went to a small mill and they gave me a m3 price, but fairly said I would get standard timber cheaper at the merchants. JohnMo, that is beautiful. Are you letting it fade to dull grey, or staining it to keep the colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Going to be doing a UV protection to keep colour. Just need to find the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 14 hours ago, SuperJohnG said: @JohnMo I think I had bypassed as it was all rough sawn more suited to board on board wall cladding, but I do actually prefer that colour as its closer to the red cedar look I wanted..I also notice you have it in your canopy, do you have any pictures of that? Also where did you get yours? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 It came from Timber Central in Nairn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJohnG Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, JohnMo said: Looks good. Is it tongue tongue groove V joint? I just always assumed scottish larchnfor soe reason was just boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 When we bought ours (Siberian Larch) , I asked Paul from ProWood about price variability. - then the issue was Brexit. It did make a difference: but not all that much couple of hundred quid. Buy when you have the money - and then let it go - DON'T look back. There's always some smart arisole who could have got it done / bought / mended / fixed at half the price. Lovely cladding - dogs gonads .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 It's shiplap, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 52 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: Buy when you have the money - and then let it go - DON'T look back. There's always some smart arisole who could have got it done / bought / mended / fixed at half the price. Lovely cladding - dogs gonads .... + 1 to that. Timber prices naturally fluctuate at any time and to predict what it's going to do as a layman is nigh on impossible. 23 hours ago, SuperJohnG said: I have kind of answered my own question but if anyone have any views of pricing - doesn't have to be fact, maybe just a view. Also quite happy to hear...that I shoudl stop messing around and just buy it. In terms of budget...it was shot ages I think so this won't make a massive amount of odds I don't think. I reckon it's still going to take a good couple of years for the timber market to settle down as some of the supply difficulties are down to lower yields from forests due to poor winter conditions, adding to the whole mix. The other side to it is that supply of timber products has gradually fallen behind demand over the last decade or so, so any investment in additional production capacity will take some time. I suspect the only thing that will dramatically affect prices short-term is if there's a sudden crash in demand, possibly from China due to its precarious property market right now. The problem is that as an individual, it's impossible to beat the market, so just buy when you can afford it. I'd also recommend just going for the whole lot. There's nothing worse than having a job partially completed on your mind and then having to re-engage in getting it finished later on down the road (or having the stress of having parts of the house exposed) - I've been there and I'm also partially in that situation due to supply problems over the last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 19 hours ago, JohnMo said: a UV protection to keep colour Do it soon as fading starts immediately. At least the south facing as a priority. I would give it a month of dry weather to move and shrink, otherwise there will be some gaps at joints. I'm assuming this is straight from the mill and not kiln dried, and even that shrinks in my experience. I didn't get any suggestion of any discount from that supplier, but their usp is any timber size to order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Not greyed so far, overhangs were mostly completed in March, the rest finished in August, will get the last bits completed in the next couple of weeks. It wasn't kiln dried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I think they told me about £400/m3 plus 30p/m. Also that the logs were usually cut a year previously and kiln drying is then not standard or necessary.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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