Jonny1974 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Leak in roof required repair. I requested quotes for lead flashing to waterproof area. Instructed a nice roofer who had provided a large quote (£1200-1500) and therefore expected a premium service. They took just 2 hours (no scaffolding) to install a product called Leadax and the job looks appalling. Roof still leaks, no step flashing on side profiles, gap still in one corner and creased throughout. This job has not met our expectations and we are refusing to pay. Will contact another roofer to complete the job to a higher specification. I'm I being to fussy? Is this the normal standard of installation provided by reputable roofers? Please look at the pics below (sorry for the poor resolution). Seems a lot of money for 2 hrs work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Looks like you got the local cowboy. Statt by getting a competent roofer to write a quick report on the bodge that has been done to show the first joker when you refuse to pay his bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) That’s a complete rip off. Your quote should have specified what they were going to do (replace lead etc). Get someone to give a proper quote and say it’s not done properly then send a copy to the cowboy. I hope you have not paid yet? Edited August 11, 2021 by joe90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Omg, that’s the worst flashing I’ve ever seen, peel and stick is a cheap cheat anyway, but they could have at least fitted it correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Whatever you do, don't pay a penny to this chancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny1974 Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 Thank you all for confirming my fears. To put you all at ease, I've not paid a penny and have made my thoughts very clear. He is now asking for £400 (£200 installation plus £200 removal labour costs), "don't worry mate, I'll cover the cost of the materials". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, Jonny1974 said: Thank you all for confirming my fears. To put you all at ease, I've not paid a penny and have made my thoughts very clear. He is now asking for £400 (£200 installation plus £200 removal labour costs), "don't worry mate, I'll cover the cost of the materials". I was concerned you had already paid, tell him you will accept £200 for the shoddy job you need to put right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tillywiz Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 someone said looks like you got a local cowboy sorry but they are all cowboys.they are either busy ripping off someone else or they are quoteing you mega bucks in the hope that you will be the next sucker on the list. to rip off .builders roofers carpenters plumbers not to mention patio and landscapers.seriously hacked off with the lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, tillywiz said: someone said looks like you got a local cowboy sorry but they are all cowboys.they are either busy ripping off someone else or they are quoteing you mega bucks in the hope that you will be the next sucker on the list. to rip off .builders roofers carpenters plumbers not to mention patio and landscapers.seriously hacked off with the lot of them. Whilst I agree there are lots of cowboys there are good builders out there (but I am retired ?). My main contractor and his guys were very good on my build, can’t fault their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronan 1 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, tillywiz said: someone said looks like you got a local cowboy sorry but they are all cowboys.they are either busy ripping off someone else or they are quoteing you mega bucks in the hope that you will be the next sucker on the list. to rip off .builders roofers carpenters plumbers not to mention patio and landscapers.seriously hacked off with the lot of them. Can't generalise all construction workers as bad just like construction workers can't tarnish all clients as bad and trust me there are as many bad clients out there as there are builders. You just got to do proper due diligence and have proper communication but I suppose you can still be unlucky on both sides of the fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tillywiz Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 hi joe so are we 70 and 75 my dad was a civil engineer and his generation had morals but i think my sons agegroup were the last group to know right from wrong now it seems right is what they want for themselves and wrong is what the customer wants the so called builder who came on recomend as a good worker etc from the architect services felt he did not have to work took £4000 deposit of use for as he put it to get the best price for materials .It turned out the vat were at him and our money was used for his overdue vat bill.then came the excuses for days where he did not turn up twice his mother died you would have thought he would have remenbered that one.when the celotex insulation was in short supply we had to hire a vehicle and drive round to collect the required quantity but he sat on his arse not even so much of a thankyou for going.when he finished our jub he had the cheat to steal the extra sheets from the shed while we were walking the dogs.he called himself a carpentry service i do better with my chisels than he did.as for comunication he would ask me something and if he did not like the answer he would ask the other half ,if that was not what he wanted to hear he would then just please himself.as for the other trades i could write a book about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 @tillywiz, sorry you had such a bad experience, yes there are cowboys out there, I was simply saying not all trades people are bad but the good ones are hard to find. My builder is booked for the next two years and because he is so good customers are willing to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tillywiz Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 we are in somerset but round this neck of the woods the ones who are working few and far between seem to spend more time driving around to pick up gear rather than actualy doing anything .i guess to time is not on our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 get it scaffolded, while they are doing it ask them for a good roofer they do work for all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Did they turn up on a horse? In all seriousness you often find roles reversed now. Plain tatty van could just as easily be top tradesman a lot if cowboys now have the signwritten vans, 0800 is a red flag as is we do- followed by every trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I always tell people to source tradespeople through recommendation, friends/neighbours/family “I used this bloke and he was good!”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 As above, word of mouth is the only believable information, I would never trust check a trader etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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