irish_admiral Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Hi folks Wanted to ask the question: what's the 'best' ceiling hood which balances performance, low noise and value for money? How much extraction rate is a sensible minimum for us (we don't do masses of smelly cooking... occasional steak or curry)? Can see there have been a couple of similar-ish topics, but angling for a few recommendations. Context - our kitchen is getting a full makeover as part of a full house renovation, so we have pretty much a blank canvas. We've decided we'd like a ceiling hood (in a drop ceiling) above a kitchen island with an induction hob on it. Room will be 5.7m x 7.5m. We're planning to duct out from the island drop ceiling through the floor joists in the ceiling above with 150mm (or 220 x 90mm) in about a 4m run to the side of the house. Currently, the ducting as planned will travel across the kitchen and then through the utility room, so we could put an inline motor there too. We're happy to consider external motors (though a bit worried they will annoy the neighbours). We've had a look at some suppliers already: Luxair appear to do some decent hoods, but don't have any inline motor options, and I don't know if 700m/h is strong enough? Westin look great, but cost quite a bit more than we wanted to spend. The 'big' brand names like Neff etc don't look any better than Luxair, and are more expensive. Have come across some Silverline / Silvaire models with inline motors which have fair prices and seem to have good performance, but i'm a bit wary of the Silverline name and can't find many reviews. Any thoughts or advice welcomed, or any brands & models i've missed and should be checking out? Trying to keep spend between £500-£1000. Don't fancy a downdraft as it'll interfere with the missus' cupboard / drawers plans for the island... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, irish_admiral said: Luxair appear to do some decent hoods, but don't have any inline motor options, and I don't know if 700m/h is strong enough? 700 cubic metres / hour is 195 litres per second - are you sure that number is correct ..?? The minimum under building regs over a hob is 30 litres / second or 108 cubic metres / hour so I would check the spec. Edited May 12, 2021 by PeterW Typo..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 8 hours ago, PeterW said: 700 cubic metres / hour is 195 litres per second - are you sure that number is correct ..?? The minimum under building regs over a hob is 30 litres / second or 108 cubic metres / hour so I would check the spec. Hi PeterW Yup, I’m sure: https://luxairhoods.com/image/catalog/PDF/Cooker Hoods/Ceiling Hoods/LA-Celux-Delux/LA-Celux-Technical-Info.pdf I’m new to the area, but 720m3/hr comes down to 12m3 per minute, and less per second based on my maths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 We used Geolux Far more powerful than we needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 7 hours ago, irish_admiral said: Hi PeterW Yup, I’m sure: https://luxairhoods.com/image/catalog/PDF/Cooker Hoods/Ceiling Hoods/LA-Celux-Delux/LA-Celux-Technical-Info.pdf I’m new to the area, but 720m3/hr comes down to 12m3 per minute, and less per second based on my maths? yep - that is 203l/s which is quite substantial on full power ..! It’s nearly 7 times the building regs minimum hence my query. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, nod said: We used Geolux Far more powerful than we needed Thanks Nod. Think that’s one of the old Gealux models? It has a lot more welly than the newer ones (950m3/h vs 650m3/h)... would be interested to know if you ever use it on max and how noisy you find it?! How big is your kitchen space? Cheers pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 It has four setting We tend to just use number 1 Number4 four will clear a burning grill in seconds Though its like being stood next to a jet engine I fitted it three years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, PeterW said: yep - that is 203l/s which is quite substantial on full power ..! It’s nearly 7 times the building regs minimum hence my query. PeterW Fair enough... even a cheap cooker hood sucks out c.300m3/h on its high-power setting. These sort of values aren't that unusual for a cooker hood. Guess the building regs wouldn't really specify a maximum! Edited May 12, 2021 by irish_admiral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, nod said: It has four setting We tend to just use number 1 Number4 four will clear a burning grill in seconds Though its like being stood next to a jet engine I fitted it three years ago Cheers mate. Good to have some real-world feedback (the numbers don't always tell the story). I'm interested in particular in the extraction values... sound levels i'm pretty good at as I moonlight as a PA tech, and know what 'loud' is! Our current one runs at c.69dB at full welly, and that's pretty loud. Louder than i'd want in an open plan most of the time. What size is your space if you don't mind me asking? Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGrahamT21 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Take a look at these: https://www.myappliances.co.uk/Cooker-Hoods I got mine from here, was far better performing than any big brand I could find, and a lot lot cheaper, its really quiet too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) Imho you can't beat an externally mounted fan unit. Loads of power and little or no noise. You just need a spark to wire up a control switch and speed dial somewhere in your kitchen (we used a standard dimmer switch!). We then used an off the shelf extractor hood and removed the fan unit. If you are ceiling mounting then you can get ceiling grill units for kitchens. This is what I used. https://www.fastlec.co.uk/monsoon-150mm-6-external-centrifugal-extractor-fan-600m3-hr?gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg3ld4z-kGumyDJ2ZYkhCdmIV-uJmUAI7lzL9C5DBQ3NEMo8hyJmNTRoCCjsQAvD_BwE Edited May 12, 2021 by Conor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jimbo Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Fair play Conor fella. externally mounted extractor units are imo the best. However they are blooming expensive. Well done for sorting it out on a diy basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, irish_admiral said: Cheers mate. Good to have some real-world feedback (the numbers don't always tell the story). I'm interested in particular in the extraction values... sound levels i'm pretty good at as I moonlight as a PA tech, and know what 'loud' is! Our current one runs at c.69dB at full welly, and that's pretty loud. Louder than i'd want in an open plan most of the time. What size is your space if you don't mind me asking? Ta. It’s 110m2 of floor Ceiling to floor is 2.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, nod said: It’s 110m2 of floor Ceiling to floor is 2.7 Nice! That's a fair old space. Good to know it clears it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Conor said: Imho you can't beat an externally mounted fan unit. Loads of power and little or no noise. You just need a spark to wire up a control switch and speed dial somewhere in your kitchen (we used a standard dimmer switch!). We then used an off the shelf extractor hood and removed the fan unit. If you are ceiling mounting then you can get ceiling grill units for kitchens. This is what I used. https://www.fastlec.co.uk/monsoon-150mm-6-external-centrifugal-extractor-fan-600m3-hr?gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg3ld4z-kGumyDJ2ZYkhCdmIV-uJmUAI7lzL9C5DBQ3NEMo8hyJmNTRoCCjsQAvD_BwE Thanks Conor. Any steer for a decent ceiling unit? Seems that buying a ceiling hood w/o motor is almost as pricey as buying an actual motor itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 @irish_admiral I managed to get an ex display 90cm stainless steel hood from Currys for near nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Fair enough. I’m going to be limited to ceiling hoods as we’re over an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 why not an an island hood then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 57 minutes ago, dpmiller said: why not an an island hood then? I don't like the look of them over an island, that's the main reason. Our open plan space isn't massive at c. 45sq.m, so i'd prefer to keep it out of the eyeline (i'm 6'2"). Appreciate the compromises with a ceiling hood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_admiral Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 Any other recommendations, or real-world extraction values I should be looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanneja Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 12/05/2021 at 10:47, MikeGrahamT21 said: Take a look at these: https://www.myappliances.co.uk/Cooker-Hoods I got mine from here, was far better performing than any big brand I could find, and a lot lot cheaper, its really quiet too. Thank you for the recommendation Mike. Does your hood continue to perform well for you? Am drawn to this one, has relatively high noise compared to other models but also has a monster extraction max rate, so assume will be quiet if not pumped to the max. Does that feel like a reasonable deduction:? https://www.myappliances.co.uk/Designair-ART28355-60cm-Striscia-Angled-Glass-Cooker-Hood Presumably the carbon filter they provide does a good job of filtering the cooking air? Ours would be used in recirculation, so keen for the exhaust air to be as clear as possible, and not discolour the ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGrahamT21 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 8 hours ago, tanneja said: Thank you for the recommendation Mike. Does your hood continue to perform well for you? Am drawn to this one, has relatively high noise compared to other models but also has a monster extraction max rate, so assume will be quiet if not pumped to the max. Does that feel like a reasonable deduction:? https://www.myappliances.co.uk/Designair-ART28355-60cm-Striscia-Angled-Glass-Cooker-Hood Presumably the carbon filter they provide does a good job of filtering the cooking air? Ours would be used in recirculation, so keen for the exhaust air to be as clear as possible, and not discolour the ceiling. Yeah its still as good as the day i bought it, does the job brilliantly. Mine is also pointed at the ceiling, and nothing on there so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallingditch Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/05/2021 at 11:42, Conor said: Imho you can't beat an externally mounted fan unit. Loads of power and little or no noise. You just need a spark to wire up a control switch and speed dial somewhere in your kitchen (we used a standard dimmer switch!). We then used an off the shelf extractor hood and removed the fan unit. If you are ceiling mounting then you can get ceiling grill units for kitchens. https://www.fastlec.co.uk/monsoon-150mm-6-external-centrifugal-extractor-fan-600m3-hr?gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg3ld4z-kGumyDJ2ZYkhCdmIV-uJmUAI7lzL9C5DBQ3NEMo8hyJmNTRoCCjsQAvD_BwE Great idea! However most extrator hoods have washable alu filters. They certainly prevent some of the fats and grease getting through - but only some (in my experience). So how does the Monsoon cope with handling a volume of greasy kitchen air? Have you cleaned it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Fallingditch said: Great idea! However most extrator hoods have washable alu filters. They certainly prevent some of the fats and grease getting through - but only some (in my experience). So how does the Monsoon cope with handling a volume of greasy kitchen air? Have you cleaned it yet? Mine had a light build up after about two years use. Nothing that warranted taking it apart and most of it was on the grill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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