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Thorfun

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Hi all. I’m in the middle of removing an external run from our existing house RCD. I’ve removed the live and neutral but I’m not sure if I have to remove the blue wire which looks like it’s the shared neutral. 
 

any electricians on here able to help please?
 

The power is currently off so could do with finding out soon!

 

here’s a photo

 

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If so then I'd just disconnect and make safe (at least tape those ends or remove completely), the incoming cable to your circuit. There'll be an earth wire too.

 

Leave the RCBO in and it's blue & white wires connected. You might want to use it for something else later on. 

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16 minutes ago, Onoff said:

That's an RCBO so it has a flying blue neutral? Is that what you're on about?

 

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Exactly what I’m talking about

 

13 minutes ago, Onoff said:

If so then I'd just disconnect and make safe (at least tape those ends or remove completely), the incoming cable to your circuit. There'll be an earth wire too.

 

Leave the RCBO in and it's blue & white wires connected. You might want to use it for something else later on. 

im going to pull out the live and neutral and earth and leave the blue cable in the RCBO. 
 

thanks @Onoff

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@Onoff tracing the eart cable is proving tricky! Any secret ways of doing so or is it just trace one at a time until you find the right one. 
 

this is a photo of the cable I want to remove in its housing. The earth is separate from the live and neutral

 

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and this is the whole fuse box. You can see the cable to remove below it

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Hmmm....and I can’t seem to pull out the red and black cables. I think I’ll just tape them off. That cable runs outside to another fuse box for the pool house which is coming down to make way for our new house. So I might eventually reuse that for a supply for the builders so I can possibly reconnect it at a later date. 
 

do I need to remove the earth cable as well? Or can that stay connected? 
 

so simply tape up the removed red and black and then put the cover back on?

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7 minutes ago, Thorfun said:

@Onoff tracing the eart cable is proving tricky! Any secret ways of doing so or is it just trace one at a time until you find the right one. 
 

this is a photo of the cable I want to remove in its housing. The earth is separate from the live and neutral

 

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and this is the whole fuse box. You can see the cable to remove below it

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OK that's 2-core steel wire armoured. The earth path goes from the earth bar in the CU via the bit of earth wire to that galvanised adaptable box. The earth path will likely continue via the stranded armoured around the cable. Those strands will be connected to the brass gland. Tug / push up that earth wire in the galv box and you might see it move on the earth bar in the CU. No prob leaving that earth wire in situ to the galv box. Are you removing the swa cable completely?

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2 minutes ago, Onoff said:

Are you removing the swa cable completely?

Yes, eventually when this house is demolished after we’ve built the new one. I was just thinking about reusing it for a site electricity supply if I can dig it up and attach the pool house RCD to a housing outside. Would save running cables through windows for builders and would also allow us to isolate from inside the house when no one is using it. 
 

so if I just leave the earth connected and tape up the live and neutral all is good?

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The swa has been glanced in a metal box and the live and neutrals are passing through the box to prevent a joint. The earth cable at the bottom of the box is supplying a flying lead to an earth somewhere else?

 

Without seeing the whole installation at least that looks well done 

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1 minute ago, TonyT said:

Without seeing the whole installation at least that looks well done 

That’s good to know. Hopefully this place will be demolished in 18 months though as we’ll have a lovely new house to live in. 

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4 minutes ago, TonyT said:

The swa has been glanced in a metal box and the live and neutrals are passing through the box to prevent a joint. The earth cable at the bottom of the box is supplying a flying lead to an earth somewhere else?

 

Without seeing the whole installation at least that looks well done 

The metal box has been utilised as a transition so the SWA can be made off to a bonded metal structure. A bit OTT but hey-ho. The earth lead does not service something else, it’s the critical earth bond strapper that bonds the SWA sheath and is functional. 

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Another vote to re use that as a site poser supply cable suitably relocated to somewhere not in the way of the new build.

 

You will need to change that for a B16 rcbo to feed a 16A commando socket.

 

And most important, at the site socket do NOT connect the SWA to anything.  Terminate the SWA into a plastic gland into a plastic box, and connect the site socket earth to a local earth rod driven into the ground.

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7 minutes ago, ProDave said:

Another vote to re use that as a site poser supply cable suitably relocated to somewhere not in the way of the new build.

 

You will need to change that for a B16 rcbo to feed a 16A commando socket.

 

And most important, at the site socket do NOT connect the SWA to anything.  Terminate the SWA into a plastic gland into a plastic box, and connect the site socket earth to a local earth rod driven into the ground.

I have found an external earthing rod near to where I think the site supply will go. but, to be honest, electricity scares me and so I think I'll get a sparky in to connect up that site supply.

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26 minutes ago, Thorfun said:

I have found an external earthing rod near to where I think the site supply will go. but, to be honest, electricity scares me and so I think I'll get a sparky in to connect up that site supply.

Yeah worth doing if not sure. Don't want to be responsible for some site worker getting a shock!also they can then test the earth rod properly to make sure its safe

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