joe90 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Onoff said: Would this be any good I wonder? https://www.screwfix.com/p/ronseal-wet-rot-wood-hardener-clear-500ml/63540? This stuff is good, have used it myself in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 How about a draught excluder let into the plant ons? Really awkward to see but you can get plastic channels you inset into a groove and draught excluder strip slides in. (My pocket door). I can't seem to find any links on the net.....not sure where I scored it from..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, joe90 said: This stuff is good, have used it myself in the past. Wood hardener? You can get it in blue pill form too... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Onoff said: Wood hardener? You can get it in blue pill form too... ? No Im not in need for this type! The draughty whatnots are a bit difficult to see in that pic, but definitely an idea, I can consider once Ive fitted the plant-ons maybe/ later detail. But as to the huge door offset onto the old frame one side- what would you do? just follow the door with the plant-on? I guess I have no choice really: or try trim it down to a point maybe- it'll stick out a bit twds base of frame if I dont. Huge niff of meths in porch.. bloomin hope this will f-off. thanks zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, zoothorn said: what would you do? just follow the door with the plant-on? Yes, unless you can move the hinges the other side so it’s straight the lock side???? But then again the plant on that side will be squiffy ?♂️. edit, looking at those photos a 20mm square plant on would fit, albeit squiffy, it’s called character. Edited April 24, 2021 by joe90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, joe90 said: Yes, unless you can move the hinges the other side so it’s straight the lock side???? But then again the plant on that side will be squiffy ?♂️. edit, looking at those photos a 20mm square plant on would fit, albeit squiffy, it’s called character. Well that's an idea Id not thought of.. isn't it normal though for front door latch/ knob to be LHS as you look at it? Actually fixing the hinges over on this squiffy side, might be a bloomin 'mare. I had thought of swizzling the door upside down, refitting the latch other side.. but then it wont hit the hinges Im just thinking. Joe do you know if oak plan-ons are a common thing to find in places-? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 No I don’t mean reverse the door, just move the bottom or top hinge in or out so the latch side is square with the frame!!, (if it’s possible!). No, latch can be any side, mine is RH side. Oak plant on is fine, hard wearing but make sure you pilot drill fir nails as it will split easier than say pine. Problem with oak and steel nails, they will produce black stains in the oak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, joe90 said: No I don’t mean reverse the door, just move the bottom or top hinge in or out so the latch side is square with the frame!!, (if it’s possible!). No, latch can be any side, mine is RH side. Oak plant on is fine, hard wearing but make sure you pilot drill fir nails as it will split easier than say pine. Problem with oak and steel nails, they will produce black stains in the oak. Use stainless steel nails? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 18 hours ago, Onoff said: Use stainless steel nails? Actually I have 1" x 1/2" oak trim on the inside back edge of the frame.. packing frame depth out or something, & seems like the nails are fine/ no staining & I bet not stainless as rusty heads. Anyway its this very oak trim, spot-on guage, that I want to source. Would anyone recognise this as a standard build merchant trim stuff? or would you surmise it was obtained from a specialist place. Ever heard of it on a day to day basis? thanks zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 Could someone help on this: the door itself (pic on pg 6) needs restoring, alot of wear marks to face. Its 1980's 25mm t&g, very hard pine. Is it the same idea IE white spirit & wire wool.. or sand the sod? or maybe wool & spirit, then sand? Oddly very little www info or YT clips. thanks zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 If it needs sanding why not buy/hire a belt sander. Take the door off and lay flat on trestles/blocks to do it, belt sanders will take it back much quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 12 hours ago, joe90 said: If it needs sanding why not buy/hire a belt sander. Take the door off and lay flat on trestles/blocks to do it, belt sanders will take it back much quicker. Hi Joe- I have a makita sander, I was just wondering before I make a ton of dust going this route, if it was best to remove the dark wear patches (over usual contact area LHS it seems) with the same white spirit & wire wool idea as I did the frame 1st? Or you say no forget the w.wool/spirits.. & just attack it all with sander? thanks zH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 14 hours ago, zoothorn said: Oddly very little www info or YT clips. Probably because it encompasses a number of little tricks and tips that are DIY 101 to most people who dabble. Most here learnt their skills I imagine well before the internet was a thing. Probably forgotten more than they know. All my mates and I grew up with dads (a novelty in itself nowadays ?) who just "did" DIY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 On 24/04/2021 at 18:53, Onoff said: I read that as a double prayer seat? If you're putting something wood in there then I'd either have it freestanding or if it's going tight against the walls make sure there's s damp proof membrane on the wooden edges and put some vents in any enclosed spaces you may construct. From here that door/frame looks bloody good. I'd maybe go with a decent , breathable, exterior wood stain to uniform the colour all over a bit. Hi Onoff.. forget to reply/ yes a freestanding double prayer seat.. searching around for one. Might make one if i cant find ideal one. Will note your vent holes, hadnt thought of this. Good to hear your opinion on the job.. I couldnt guage if a shoddy job, or a good one tbh! I think Ill just leave frame as is, stick there as it were, as its taken such an effort. I need shot of the job asap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 37 minutes ago, zoothorn said: Or you say no forget the w.wool/spirits.. & just attack it all with sander? thanks zH Try the wire wool etc first, if this does not do the trick then sand it. If you remove the door, do the sanding outside, with these winds dust won’t be a problem!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Onoff said: Probably because it encompasses a number of little tricks and tips that are DIY 101 to most people who dabble. Most here learnt their skills I imagine well before the internet was a thing. Probably forgotten more than they know. All my mates and I grew up with dads (a novelty in itself nowadays ?) who just "did" DIY. This is where I fall short you see. My dad, struggled to change a bulb. Mum better, she could wire a plug if pushed to. I was a poor occasional diy'er only, up until 3 yrs ago when I had to get somone in to fix a bit of door frame to a wall ( bc those frame screws bewildered me!!) he looked at me like an idiot. Which prompted me to find build hub. Quite proud of how far Ive come tbh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 3 hours ago, joe90 said: Try the wire wool etc first, if this does not do the trick then sand it. If you remove the door, do the sanding outside, with these winds dust won’t be a problem!! Just done the job- wool/ spirit then blast it with sander. Nice & quick too. What would be suggestion now? just a basic something on top maybe: its only an average pine door/ not really a looker.. I don't intend to go the 5x layer osmo route treatment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 How about polyurethane varnish?? Matt or gloss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, joe90 said: How about polyurethane varnish?? Matt or gloss! Yes understand its sort of an obvious answer.. just the most recent pine door I did (extention lower room workshop) with a sadolin quality coloured one.. every brush stroke visible/ patch city. Yup clear is the way to avoid this I guess. thanks zH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, zoothorn said: Yes understand its sort of an obvious answer.. just the most recent pine door I did (extention lower room workshop) with a sadolin quality coloured one.. every brush stroke visible/ patch city. Yup clear is the way to avoid this I guess. thanks zH Yes, I really don’t like “coloured stains”, better to stain the wood then a clear varnish/polish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 4 hours ago, joe90 said: Yes, I really don’t like “coloured stains”, better to stain the wood then a clear varnish/polish. Aha.. maybe thats why it was in the bargain bin then. Did a proper undercoat too, & great colour I must say from a few feet & more away, but every damn brush stroke 'finish' is visible. Good well Ive learnt another trick then. thanks joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 26/04/2021 at 12:56, joe90 said: How about polyurethane varnish?? Matt or gloss! Nailed me plant ons on.. but loathed to glue them to the old frame. Couldn't source some nice oak trim.. so had to go with std bloomin stuff, lets the job down i must say/ real shame to hide the pitch pine frame with it. But hey it'll have to do. just varnish the trim to tone them down i think then calling the door done. One frame hole, a knot to find/ shape & fill it. Thanks.. zoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 @zoothorn, looking good, well done, we will have you building your own house soon!!!,! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, zoothorn said: Nailed me plant ons on.. but loathed to glue them to the old frame. Couldn't source some nice oak trim.. so had to go with std bloomin stuff, lets the job down i must say/ real shame to hide the pitch pine frame with it. But hey it'll have to do. just varnish the trim to tone them down i think then calling the door done. One frame hole, a knot to find/ shape & fill it. Thanks.. zoot Like that! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) Thanks.. just lino really, then paint it. But what are the alternatives to lino? I could always use my 'wood effect' roll i had ready for it (a bit 'nasty' tbh, a cheapo offcut) for my cabin instead. I was wondering if lino might be a bit of a disaster if i have a bit of damp in one corner coming up. At the mo its a concrete floor, not great, bit of a step over the upvc porch door sill.. so could this be built onto say an inch or so. thanks zoot. Edited May 5, 2021 by zoothorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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