Onoff Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, BogBeast said: ? Don't have kids, but will be sure to find some to take... In that case go on your own. Maybe take the other half so as not to look like the sad, slightly suspect loner in the anorak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BogBeast said: but I have another 3 acres of literally hundreds of similar trees and brush that I want to clear/landscape. beware you can only remove scrub/trees that are less than 100mm dia @1.3m measured from ground anything larger than that you need a felling license as it is classed as a tree -- even in your garden now speak to forestry commission --£1500 fine for not getting one AND they can make you replant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogBeast Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, scottishjohn said: beware you can only remove scrub/trees that are less than 100mm dia @1.3m measured from ground anything larger than that you need a felling license as it is classed as a tree -- even in your garden now speak to forestry commission --£1500 fine for not getting one AND they can make you replant Ok many thanks, I will speak to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 This from the woodland trust If the tree does not have a TPO and is not in a Conservation Area then you do not require permission to fell a tree if it is in your garden. I think you only need permission if you fell lots of trees, best to research this further. I have removed several large trees on my land and did not seek permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 hours ago, BogBeast said: Ok many thanks, I will speak to them no dont do that. more hassle. All the trees you dropped were 99mm diameter unless they can prove otherwise (burn it all!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 8 hours ago, joe90 said: This from the woodland trust If the tree does not have a TPO and is not in a Conservation Area then you do not require permission to fell a tree if it is in your garden. I think you only need permission if you fell lots of trees, best to research this further. I have removed several large trees on my land and did not seek permission. you do if its not a garden within a defined boundary and as i found they changed the law last years sop even an old garden of a refurbishment project has to be cultivated area to be classed as garden -- left to do its own thing for 20years + makes it not cultivated --so not a garden in their eyes its the definition of a garden --and 3 acres of ground will not be classed as your garden --only if the planning application shows it as being within the curtilage of your house which must have a defined boundary --like walls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 how would they get access to your land to check it ? In England at least a warrant is needed to gain entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: All the trees you dropped were 99mm diameter unless they can prove otherwise (burn it all!). and that would mean removing every stump and burning it too --cos they will know by looking at stumps how big they were I cannot say for england but in scotland they redrew the maps making virtually any scrubby bit of ground classed as natural or historic woodland --and can claim your ground has gone back to nature they did this on my quarry ground and i should not have even cleared the old roads without permission +planning from council even FC have to get planning consent to make roads in their own woodland since last year and have had to get quarry planning for any small ones they make inthe eoods to get hard core for roads --and i an extraction permit as well for the stone so just putting a road around your scrub land could need planning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: how would they get access to your land to check it ? In England at least a warrant is needed to gain entry. its called google earth satellite--latest one for my quarry etc shows my car and dumper aand all my new cleared old roads etc---and they get the pictures with sane resolution as military --not what we get for free --planning also use that to look at sites to see whats been going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 sorts of felling permits clear felling -which will usually have a replanting requirement --that does not have to be in same place or even same type of tree- and a thinning permit which allows for up to 40% to be cleared and no replanting required both of these need an approved plan from a the forestry man then the last thing you can do is you are allowed to take up to 5cum of wood per calendar 1/4 for your OWN use for ever . good luck on working out that number on a broad leaf tree- pines are easy ones with big branchs to as easy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 hours ago, scottishjohn said: you can only remove scrub/trees that are less than 100mm dia @1.3m measured from ground That’s the felling licence rules for woodland in Scotland, the measurements in England and Wales are 80mm at 1.5m for felling, and 75mm for a TPO .. confused yet..? however from the regulations there is this : In any calendar quarter you may fell up to 5 cubic metres (m3) of growing trees on your property without a felling licence, as long as no more than 2m3 are sold. The volume of timber is assessed by measuring the amount of wood in the main tree stem(s) where this is greater than 8cm in diameter over bark. For large broadleaved trees, this includes major branches. What you cannot do though is systematically clear a while area under this ruling - quarter by quarter - so be sure that the 3 acres you have @BogBeast is classed as garden not woodland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Dave Jones said: how would they get access to your land to check it ? In England at least a warrant is needed to gain entry. Or not. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/powers-of-entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogBeast Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 After a bit of stop and start I managed to get down to Diggerworld before Xmas and spent good few hours on a JCB 3cx and a Komatsu 22 ton 360. Very enjoyable and worthwhile, got to ask lots of questions and gained some insight. Very helpful bunch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceverge Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Ace. When's the komatsu being delivered to site?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogBeast Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 19/01/2021 at 18:59, Iceverge said: Ace. When's the komatsu being delivered to site?? Tempting to rent something that big. It would make very short work of the holes I have to dig. I suspect I would have my basement dug in less than a day... Not sure I coud hire one of those by the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 You can hire 45t diggers if you need them that size. 8 to 10t is perfect for most sites. A 13t is the best option if you intend to crane materials in. So is it a digger or a crane/digger you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 main problem is they will require you to have plant insurance-that could be another £300 OR MORE? -so if only a day maybe be better to hire digger +an operator who has insurance etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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