Bored Shopper Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Found ourselves in a bit of a pickle. BCO came 2 months ago when we had a flimsy cheap uPVC door installed between Utility and garage. Garage was not fully completed at that stage. The door was really poor (our saga with doors and windows deserves a blog entry, maybe a few whiskies later), so we replaced with a very sturdy and solid composite one from Selco (see here). Next BCO comes in last week, sees the new door, and the nearly complete garage, and suddenly unhappy with the door as says it should be fire rated. No comments as to why this was not raised previously. Also no further clarification as to what exactly he expects to see in this place. What should we do? Rip it out, and put an internal wooden FD - can't believe it is more fire resistant than glass-reinforced composite one? any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 They normally ask for a fire door between house and garage. You can see why I guess. Make sure the frame is the right spec as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yep, internal fire door is what BC will expect. What is very SAD is it is almost impossible to find an insulated, air tight, fire rated door to use. External sealed, insulated doors are mostly not fire rated, and the few that are, are very expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijay Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, ProDave said: Yep, internal fire door is what BC will expect. What is very SAD is it is almost impossible to find an insulated, air tight, fire rated door to use. External sealed, insulated doors are mostly not fire rated, and the few that are, are very expensive. Apart from the cost, what about 2 doors to get round that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored Shopper Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Vijay said: Apart from the cost, what about 2 doors to get round that? this is what we thought (deep in the night, in deep distress). Do you think it would stand a chance with BC? The configuration would be as below: | GARAGE | Composite door | internal fire door (in the same doorway which is deep enough) | utility | existing internal fire door | kitchen| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, Bored Shopper said: Do you think it would stand a chance with BC? Ring him up and ask him!!,! It would get my vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored Shopper Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 We will - he's a bit difficult as it is techinically his fault: "forgetting" that our house has a garage, missing hte point about the door at earlier stages and then with a great surprise re-discovering the garage (which as been on all plans from Day 1) and kicking a fuss re door. But naturally, who wants arguing with a BCO a step away from completion? .. Anyway, as always, appreciate the Forum Wisdom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Are there not conversion kits to allow you to fit am intumescent seal? Would this do it in your circs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored Shopper Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 Ah, did not consider that - thank you, will test that route as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 @Bored Shopper your fire door should have been on any plans submitted for BC? If they were not they should have pointed this out on submission! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored Shopper Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 minute ago, joe90 said: @Bored Shopper your fire door should have been on any plans submitted for BC? If they were not they should have pointed this out on submission! Well, now we know that - on the plans it was not stated, whether this was a FD or not a FD (our sorry excuse for the PM did not bother much with such trifles, and we only installed FDs after I read the forum and the Homebuilders Bible and BR Approved Docs and it hit me that all internal doors on GF should be fire-rated). Our PM shrugged his shoulders and said something along the lines of "well, if you want, of course you can put fire doors..."... (general facepalm, now we know, of course...). Oh well, a lesson learned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bored Shopper said: and it hit me that all internal doors on GF should be fire-rated and why is that? (Sorry if this has been explained elsewhere). So building control passed your plans and didn’t point this out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Bored Shopper said: it hit me that all internal doors on GF should be fire-rated That's not correct. For a normal 2 storey house the only internal door that would need to be fire rated is a door between a garage and the house. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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