daiking Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don’t trust floating shelves, not on dot and dab to brick. So I’m going to use brackets too, http://www.screwfix.com/p/hi-load-bracket-147kg-white-200-x-200mm-10-pack/30268 and 14 of these bad boys http://www.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-rawl-4-all-mixed-wall-plugs-blue-200-pcs/8467g in the plasterboard. I just hope I can get all the holes level and lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 What size dowels / other go into the shelves? Id get some stainless threaded bar and drill through the d&d into the solid wall behind leaving the stainless protruding as the new dowels. Buy some resin anchor ( mastic gun one ) and fit the shelves on the wet fixings so it stays lined up and plumb / level. Stuff goes off in <5 mins after mixing in the nozzle. It's 2-part resin + hardener your looking for. Remove shelf and refit accordingly and job done. ? Eating a bacon roll, will look for a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 15? 20mm? Frame about 1m long, 50mm wide, with 3 'dowels'. Suggests 2 fixings above each dowel and a single fixing in the gaps in a zig zag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't think S'fix do the spare resin nozzles but T'station do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 This kind of stuff ? Or indeed toolstaion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 It will make less mess to pull the shelf off the wall than putting M20 resin anchors in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Multi tool or make a jig & ROUTE the plasterboard so the shelf sits in the cut slot. Bit of sticky stuff on the back to the wall, job done! I'll get me coat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 34 minutes ago, daiking said: It will make less mess to pull the shelf off the wall than putting M20 resin anchors in. Less mess with M16... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I too just don't like dot and dab anyway but it would be ok if the void under the shelf was fully filled. Re resin studs I have fixed large oak shelves/ mantles with threaded rod and resin and its very solid and looks great without brackets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Bracket free for me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Eating a bacon roll, will look for a link. 515 calories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Brackets every time. The only good thing about the floaters is their chunkiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, daiking said: The only good thing about the floaters is their chunkiness. 1) PMSL 2) They're chunky ok, but usually like a cheap internal door. A few strips of pine and all mdf / hardboard covered. Solid wood obviously would be as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, daiking said: The only good thing about the floaters is their chunkiness. 1) PMSL 2) They're chunky ok, but usually like a cheap internal door. A few strips of pine and all mdf / hardboard covered. Solid wood obviously would be as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: 1) PMSL 2) They're chunky ok, but usually like a cheap internal door. A few strips of pine and all mdf / hardboard covered. Solid wood obviously would be as such. You can get leather effect ones too you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I put a few of the floating shelves up in my sister's from IKEA and to be honest they seen pretty sturdy and I was impressed. Two long steel rods and plenty of fixing holes. Then she got different ones from Argos. These basically hang on a screw head on a tin plate similar to what you would find on a picture frame . They need cleaned twice a day to stop dust building up and pulling them of the wall, pure and utter crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Well fingers crossed the Fischer resin on these M10 stainless studs holds in my bath feet: They're only in by 46mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Declan52 said: I put a few of the floating shelves up in my sister's from IKEA and to be honest they seen pretty sturdy and I was impressed. Two long steel rods and plenty of fixing holes. Then she got different ones from Argos. These basically hang on a screw head on a tin plate similar to what you would find on a picture frame . They need cleaned twice a day to stop dust building up and pulling them of the wall, pure and utter crap. They are pretty good for a pile of sawdust and glue, wrapped in fablon. As these are over 6 foot long they also have 4 conventional shelf brackets on each of the shelves so I can sleep easily that whatever family put on them they won't come down before the whole wall does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 And they look ugly as sin but this is the "office" so I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 6 hours ago, recoveringacademic said: 515 calories Nope. Extra sausage and omelette. Tres bien. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Onoff said: Well fingers crossed the Fischer resin on these M10 stainless studs holds in my bath feet: They're only in by 46mm. I take it back, THAT is ugly as sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Dai, it's going under his bath not on the wall you nutter ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) 36 minutes ago, daiking said: I take it back, THAT is ugly as sin. FFS! It's yet to be sanded, have a chamfer routed on the edge and a couple of coats of yacht varnish. Give us a chance! Edited December 19, 2016 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Onoff said: FFS! It's yet to be sanded, have a chamfer routed on the edge and a couple of coats of yacht varnish. Give us a chance! You've got to be shitting me Oh, your not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryE Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: You've got to be shitting me Oh, your not @Nickfromwales C'mon he's just another anal member of this forum, just like you and me!! We all just have our own anal peculiarities -- or at least that's what Jan keep telling me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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