Our class q self build

[General-Lee]

Hi there we started building our house back in the Autumn, was our old Silage shed. 
 Been a rollercoaster with planning, getting builders on site then the wet/windy Winter. 
 

Demolished the surrounding buildings last Summer/Autumn. Stripped the old roof very little photographic evidence of that!??

 

Then when the weather allowed fitted the roof again by ourselves, builders arrived Nov/Dec and been on sight on and off. 
 

I’m doing as much as I can alongside them groundwork’s, steel cleaning and painting, outside cladding...

 

Electricians on 1st fix, which leads me to this site, need some MVHR help, so will be posting a separate thread on that. 
 

Lee

 

 Here’s some pics and our Instagram page. 
 

https://instagram.com/devon_barn_conversion?r=nametag

 

https://www.instagram.com/invites/contact/?i=1xwabykomp0t4&utm_content=b9tjlhg

 

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[Ferdinand]

Welcome.

 

Looks like an excellent project.

[Dave Jones]

would it have been possible to drop the internal floor by 1m so you can stand up on the 1st floor ?

[Russell griffiths]

Yee haa 

love it mate, your not in hazzard county are you. 

 

@Roger440 check this out bud. 

Edited May 6, 2020 by Russell griffiths

[Tom]

Looks great! We got Part Q permission for our barn in March but have just applied for full planning to completely rebuild. Might have to pick your brains at some stage! Looks like you're not too far away, we're south Devon

[General-Lee]

1 hour ago, Dave Jones said:

would it have been possible to drop the internal floor by 1m so you can stand up on the 1st floor ?

We only got planning for a single storey, plus we’ve more than enough space with one level. If we do do anything in the future we’ve more than enough height, 4.2m to the apex where the ceiling is at its highest and 4.8m at is lowest. 

 

1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said:

Yee haa 

love it mate, your not in hazzard county are you. 

 

@Roger440 check this out bud. 

 

Nope only Devon

 

1 hour ago, Tom said:

Looks great! We got Part Q permission for our barn in March but have just applied for full planning to completely rebuild. Might have to pick your brains at some stage! Looks like you're not too far away, we're south Devon

 

More than happy to have my brains picked.??

[DavidFrancis]

Looks like you've got insulated roof panels. What u value do those particular ones have and do you mind my asking how much they cost per m2.

 

I'd find any other info interesting too. Like whether you bought them direct or through an intermediary. Were there any difficulties with the size of your order which might be smaller than the average. You said you did the roof yourselves. How hard was that?

 

Thanks in advance.

[General-Lee]

39 minutes ago, DavidFrancis said:

Looks like you've got insulated roof panels. What u value do those particular ones have and do you mind my asking how much they cost per m2.

 

I'd find any other info interesting too. Like whether you bought them direct or through an intermediary. Were there any difficulties with the size of your order which might be smaller than the average. You said you did the roof yourselves. How hard was that?

 

Thanks in advance.

I don’t know the u value, it maybe on Kingspans website.  I went with the insulated panels (60mm) for some sound deadening when it rains with the added bonus of the insulating properties. 
 

About £3.48 - £5.42 (if I’ve got that right!) between quotes. Don’t think you can buy direct I had quotes from several companies local and national. In the end our builder was cheapest buying it through Bradfords. 
 

The 7m sheets were a handful, especially with the windy winter. A artic wouldn’t get to our site but luckily where I work could.  Then used a tractor and bale trailer to bring home. We’re building on a tight budget I hired a long reach loadall and borrowed works normal sized one and I hired a cherry picker, I’ve built/roofed a few ag sheds where the sheets tend to be 3m and only single skinned. These were quite lumpy involved lots of humping-reposition-lift...

It was pretty intense but the roof runs are in one length no extra sealing required and less worry of and extra joint for water ingress. It didn’t help we did it in the height of winter we were restricted to driving on the concrete, if we did it now you could drive where you like. 
 

We have our own scaffold but only enough for one side a full wraparound would of helped, physically and from a safety point of view. 
 

Was quite stressful I had machines on hire and not being used because of the weather, snatching odd hours here and there. But massive satisfaction knowing we did it ourselves and most importantly no one died!??

[DavidFrancis]

Many thanks for all the extra info. I wonder if the costs should be £35-£54 per metre squared?

 

Looks like a very interesting build. This is purely idle curiosity: from the picture of your other half and daughter sitting on the top of your internal frame it looks like you're going to have two walls, one on either side of your steel posts. If that's right, what kind if wall thickness will you end up with? And will you be putting some kind of waterproof cover over your internal frame, or are you trusting the external fame. Either way, you're going to have one hell of a lot of storage space above!

[Roger440]

On 06/05/2020 at 17:19, Russell griffiths said:

Yee haa 

love it mate, your not in hazzard county are you. 

 

@Roger440 check this out bud. 

 

Im here

 

[Roger440]

I started a thread a few weeks ago on exactly this subject.

 

A couple of Q's if i may?

 

What goes on top of the joists in what is the roof void? Are you just leaving it as is?

 

Im unclear on the planning. You say you only got planning for single story. If i understand from the responses to my thread, planning dont care whats inside, only about the outside, and as a consequence and opening such as windows.

 

PS, nice user name, let me share one of my toys..........................

 

[Roger440]

Oh, i cant help myself. One more Q?

 

Whats the build up of the side walls? Are these fully insulated all the way to the eaves? Ir are you just insulating the rooms independantly of the building?

 

[General-Lee]

On 18/05/2020 at 22:12, Roger440 said:

I started a thread a few weeks ago on exactly this subject.

 

A couple of Q's if i may?

 

What goes on top of the joists in what is the roof void? Are you just leaving it as is?

 

Im unclear on the planning. You say you only got planning for single story. If i understand from the responses to my thread, planning dont care whats inside, only about the outside, and as a consequence and opening such as windows.

 

PS, nice user name, let me share one of my toys..........................

 

 

On 18/05/2020 at 22:15, Roger440 said:

Oh, i cant help myself. One more Q?

 

Whats the build up of the side walls? Are these fully insulated all the way to the eaves? Ir are you just insulating the rooms independantly of the building?

 

Sorry for late reply, not checked in here for a while. 
 

Going to be boarded out and insulation on top, due to tight finances we're happy with just that. Down the line can see me boarding above the insulation or making rooms up there and moving the insulation above that. 
 

It’s a long time ago now we went through it, it’s a class q permitted development. My sister and I both put in for a barn each I was led to believe with the 2 applications we’d reach the square metre allowance, could be bunk but 229 square metres is more than big enough for us. 
 

It’s a nickname I picked up in my teens from Takeshi’s castle, nice car!!?

 

For the moment we’re only insulating the living space, external walls and the loft space/ceiling.