vk2003 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I need to repaint the reception area white in the business end of my house. It’s an area that inevitably gets some wear on the walls. which Wall paint is best for strength (ie resisting knocks/ scratches when brushed against) and can also be wiped clean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Imo Dulux Trade Diamond Matt: https://www.duluxtradepaintexpert.co.uk/en/products/paint/dulux-trade/dulux-trade-diamond-matt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 When my decorator came to paint my build he insisted on that Dulux paint for the ceilings. (Only bit that was white). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, joe90 said: When my decorator came to paint my build he insisted on that Dulux paint for the ceilings. (Only bit that was white). I was recommended it on here. It is very, very good. Possibly the best paint I've ever used tbh. It's got a very subtle sparkle to it to my eyes. For the pre coats inc a watered down 1st coat I used Leyland Super Leytex that's high opacity and good on new plaster. Tbh that looked bloody good on it's own. Any imperfections I filled with Easy Fill 20 before AND after the Super Leytex. (No I don't work for Deluxe or Leyland or British Gypsum!). Edited April 30, 2020 by Onoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Dulux make a washable matt white paint called EasyCare. Works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I’ve binned off using Dulux and now use the Wickes own tough and washable range. https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Pure-Brilliant-White---No-0-Tough+Washable-Matt-Emulsion-Paint---5L/p/121920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) I've used Dulux Easycare. One thing to watch for is that they also have bathroom and kitchen versions, and about 29 (ish) shades of white, but that not all their umpteen shades of white are available in all ranges. So if you plan to match, choose carefully, and do it all at once - next year they may have a different selection of whites. Also watch out for discounts - the last lot I had for a whole bungalow was about 30% off overall - Wickes 3 for 2 plus some wheer i needed less or not on discount.. Something like £110 not £160. But I would never by Dulux for spraying, as it bungs up my machine. Ferdinand Edited April 30, 2020 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, PeterW said: I’ve binned off using Dulux and now use the Wickes own tough and washable range. https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Pure-Brilliant-White---No-0-Tough+Washable-Matt-Emulsion-Paint---5L/p/121920 Because of price? Dulux is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Onoff said: Dulux Trade Diamond Matt I once had some places sprayed with this and any bits of overspray on wooden floors was almost impossible to remove once dried. Not soft like normal emulsion. It is more scrub clean than wipe clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I read really good things about Armstead durable matt emulsion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oranjeboom Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 All my walls are white and I was going to use Dulux Trade Diamond Matt throughout, but after 4tins of the stuff I wasn't that impressed (not able to remove fly shit from ceiling without removing paint) with either the hefty price or the results. I then tried Leyland Trade Hardwearing paint (1/2 the cost) which I find rolls a bit better and does 'feel' durable. Some of the other paints I have tried come off if I just use a dry cloth to take any marks out! You end up being very careful how you apply the Dulux stuff as you see and count how quickly the paint disappears from the tin! Their Easycare seems like a good product too and have used that in bathrooms and kitchen. At the moment no paint will stand the clumsiness of tradespeople so I know I will have to repair/repaint walls where some idiot decides to scrape by with his claw hammer hanging from his belt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Onoff said: Because of price? Dulux is expensive. Price is one factor but I was also told Wickes paint is manufactured by PPG - who make Dulux ! I've used all of their range of specialist emulsion paints (Bathroom, Kitchen, T&W) and never had a problem. I've also got a source for PPG trade stock / rebrands etc and buy at significantly less than RRP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Isn't Dulux Akzo Nobel now? PPG retained ICI Nexa in the Automotive sector, but Dulux went away... Johnstones is the PPG architectural brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, dpmiller said: Isn't Dulux Akzo Nobel now? PPG retained ICI Nexa in the Automotive sector, but Dulux went away... Johnstones is the PPG architectural brand. Leyland and Johnston's but also own the Dulux brand in Canada ..! Guy I buy from has a big trade supply chain so makes me wonder, and pretty sure he stocks Leyland and Dulux. Got me wanting to check now ..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vk2003 Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 Thank you everyone. Because it is a reception area, things do get knocked (it’s amazing how little care people take when it’s not their own home...). So I am reconciled to the fact that it prob needs redoing every 4-5yrs. Do I might just save a few quid and go with wickes or Leyland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 How much is this dulux? The armstead gets better reviews and is about 50 quid for 10l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Oz07 said: How much is this dulux £8.80/litre at B&Q https://www.diy.com/departments/dulux-easycare-apple-white-matt-emulsion-paint-2-5l/1914737_BQ.prd Edited May 1, 2020 by SteamyTea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 9 hours ago, PeterW said: Leyland and Johnston's but also own the Dulux brand in Canada ..! Guy I buy from has a big trade supply chain so makes me wonder, and pretty sure he stocks Leyland and Dulux. Got me wanting to check now ..! Yep, Leyland is PPG too. For reference, I've been associated with the automotive paint trade for almost thirty years now (weighing/mixing IT support) and have also been subbed into retail mixing in Homebase etc. Somewhere 2007-ish as I recall (you can research the complexities if you're bored) the coatings industry was reshuffled before and after European monopolies issues. ICI decorative (Dulux) went to Akzo ICI automotive (Nexa) went to PPG Crown went from Akzo, through a management buyout, to being owned by Hempel. And if you think that's complex, look at the history of Axalta... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Why not do a wall in each of the suggested paints and make your own mind up? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: £8.80/litre at B&Q https://www.diy.com/departments/dulux-easycare-apple-white-matt-emulsion-paint-2-5l/1914737_BQ.prd Whilst Wickes have 2 x 2,5l for £34, which is £7 per litre. Obvs minus your usual Wickes 10-20% trade and other discount, plus 5% more if they are running a Trade Offer as they did late in March. Makes it about the same price as Armstead ?, or close enough to buy on paint not price. Dulux own outlets are currently shut. But who knows what else is out there? Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: Whilst Wickes have I used to like Wickes' gloss paints. Know idea who made it for them. My problem is the 25 mile journey to Wickes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: I used to like Wickes' gloss paints. Know idea who made it for them. My problem is the 25 mile journey to Wickes. Wickes actually do free delivery for orders over £75 (except to Timbuktu ), which I think is a lot lower than it used to be. Unfortunately several buildhubbers live in Timbuktu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Wilko have Dulux 5 litre Easycare at £26 which makes it £5.20 a litre so really good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 That armstead is good then at 5 quid. Read the reviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Why is it that when one paints a wall, and even if the colour is only sightly different, does it not look right? I think I quite like the 'friendly amount of dirt' look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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