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Have a word with @Pocster as he has a grid tiled ceiling and says modern tiles look nicer than the old ones and might be able to suggest new tiles that don’t look as bad.

nice! welcome, congratulations and good luck!

I think we need to be a little bit. SWMBO thought me a little bonkers when I would vacuum in the studs before putting insulation in.

oh wait. $12000 according to the description of the video. sounded like he said $2000 in the video.

i don't care! $2000 with all those attachments? if it lasted 4 weeks that'd be cheaper than hiring one for that period. i'm tempted to take a look. for the small jobs i need to do around here that could be perfect. it's hard to justify the costs of even second hand machines when you're using it 6 or 7 times a year.

maybe next winter.....or the winter after. it seems i really am as slow as you.

I was a little concerned about how the brackets would look as they were below ceiling level but then just figured they’d be in the cupboard so who cares! 😂 if I can be bothered I’ll see if I can change it so they’re above the ceiling line.

I did it @Nickfromwales! not sure if it's exactly how you were suggesting but it feels pretty solid. I even added diagonal bracing on the brackets for extra sturdiness. I'm a belt and braces type of cowboy.

I question the need for this anymore with TVs getting lighter and fixings getting stronger do we really need to worry about fixing in to plasterboard anymore?

I do believe you, it’s just so much fun winding you up. 😂

Who are you trying to convince? Me or yourself! 🤣

For that authentic office look

thanks. next saturday when I'm doing the job I'll see if I can figure it out!

Not sure I understand what you mean. 😢

it's not the size, it's how you use it. at least that's what @Pocster says.

but the z-shaped purple line under the stairs' perimeter channel will be pointing at an angle down unless I can cut a piece of wood at the right angle to make the channel sit at 90deg?

sure. no issues fixing the top wall channel to the top hat and that was what I figured would happen for the wall. but where do I fix the MF6 perimeter channel to (coloured green in the photo)?

hmm....I guess I could cut a piece of wood with an angle and attach to the boarding under the stairs to give a 90deg angle for the perimeter channel to attach to? but sounds fraught with risk that the angle won't be accurate enough.

but the wood still wouldn't have anything "solid" to fix to above for the walls? an I still need a perimeter channel for the ceiling to fix to something?

afternoon all. firstly I've put this in the general joinery section as we don't have a metal frame section on the forum I could see! I know metal framing isn't joinery but I couldn't think of a better place to put it. anyway, winter is coming and I'm hanging up my golf clubs to do some more work on the basement. the room I'm working on has the under-the-stairs bit and I want to frame it out to make a cupboard. no big deal I think. but I am also needing to drop the ceiling by about 500mm so I can cover the soil pipe (the picture below tells the story). my concern is that the walls where I've coloured the lines orange won't have anything to fix to apart from a ceiling top-hat (in light blue). is that sufficient? also where do I attach the ceiling perimeter channel coloured green that will take the top hats to? I'm struggling to envision how it all works and if it will all be sturdy enough! we want to eventually hang a TV off the cupboard wall. can anyone put my mind at ease and tell me it'll be fine? also any advice for doing this sort of "free-standing"-ish wall and ceiling? I

I don’t know the official answer but we used galvanised rings everywhere iirc. They’re a bugger to remove when you make a mistake but for me that was a good thing as they’re not going anywhere! make sure you get one of these https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dwht0-55524-claw-bar-10-/156ky?ref=SFAppShare I used mine a lot!!

welcome. sounds like exactly what we did! our blog is on here somewhere that documents some of our journey. and don't worry i think i've already asked all the stupid questions. 🤣

ended up purchasing from Ruby (https://www.ruby-group.co.uk/). I'll report back on what they're like for future readers.

i was told by Graf UK sales that the max distance between tank and pump is 20m. i did consider running the pump in the plant room but i would've exceeded that distance so i have my pump in the outdoor box next to the tank. it's so far from the house that i don't hear it. i have heard it a few times as i've come back with the dog after a walk but it wasn't excessively loud for me. horror stories? not as such but my pump failed after about 1yr of use but it was sitting around unused for a couple of years before that. Graf UK were very helpful and had to go back to Germany to request a replacement as it was "out of warranty" by a short period of time despite only being in use for just over a year due to the delay in installing and commissioning it. it took so long for Germany to respond due to holidays and i guess more important things that the UK support just replaced it for free for me in the end. so i can't grumble at that! i'm hoping that my original pump was just an anomaly and the new pump lasts longer than a year!

give the tech support department a call?