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And there we have it. Thats what happens if customer and trades folk don't talk to one another...

Joe we have a soakaway planned. My alternative suggestion is exactly the same really: this time it soaks away into a different system which is designed to do the same thing.....

Yessah! Now sah! (The pipes do have 100 mm of pea gravel on top of them.... honest Dave. )

There wuz I, a' diggin' this 'trench - by hand - so I got to know it quite well. The dogs, the cat, the chickens all came to review progress, and comment on progress. Hot, sweaty work: deep enough to be eye-level with the chickens. Why they even picked off the baked beans stuck to my T shirt. It hurt - a bit. But they were kindness itself really. I blame too many totally knackered suppers, slob-like, slumped in front of the TV. The hot weather lulled me into false security. Hadn't thought much about rain. Until yesterday. See, the guttering discharges a hundred mm from the trench. Talk about a laxative moment. Visions of a one meter deep swimming pool. But then I had a thought..... This is the trench How useful is a spare bit of gutter to re-direct the flow from the downpipe? ? Half way down the trench (red elipse) is the land drainage piping that's supposed to stop ground heave in ice-cold weather. That pipe takes the water flow down to a spot in the garden about 10 meters away and about 2 meters lower than the slab. From there it drains into a pond. Can I just duct the rainwater from the roof into that pipe?

Reading between the lines - I doubt anyone here (well, I can think of one..... )has much to teach you. Perhaps you might think about exhaustion and completing the damn thing. I needed learn to muster just enough self discipline to print the invoices off and drop them in a special tray - one which with his often muddy feet the cat won't lie on. Just enough self discipline to DO-IT-NOW. There must be six months worth of invoices waiting for attention. And a whole load of paw prints.

I'd be interested to read what you think the problem(s) might be ...

Ok, how's this then? From the first I/C using my laser (spot 30mm above the invert) and looking for 1.4 degrees (thanks @epsilonGreedy - I couldn't work it out for myself) Heres how I judged the gradient The black line is 100mm above ground level - and the laser spot is 30mm above the previous invert - so here it looks like there's 20mm to play with.... and that was 1.4 degrees below the previous one..... all the way ( 8 meters or so) to the next I/C which is a titchy bit off level . The overall line isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be .... although, there's nowt to be lost by nudging the second joint left a bit is there? Right, what have I missed, please?

Just rung her. She says ........................... Its OK. 344mm wide

Back in yer kennel Griffiths....?

Nasty .... How about build up-wind ?

Failure to realise that caused us a full years worth of overthinking and worry . Its very common to solve the impossible foul drainage problem post hoc.

Oh, God , yes ...... Thanks @ProDave: too tired to think at the moment.

Trench dug ✔️ Gravel delivered✔️ Pipes delivered ✔️ I/Cs delivered ✔️ Overthinking done ( i.e. @Russell griffiths consulted) ✔️ BCO consulted ✔️ "Send me some photographs of the trench just before you want to back-fill it " "I/C in place ?" "Yes" I'm trying to avoid the situation where she looks at the photos and, sucking her teeth, says .... "Yer gonna have to take that out and ....... " Tips please

Focus on finding the landlord. Talk.

Just get on with it.

Nulok passed our inspection, in fact the BCO and I had a giggle about what's printed - embossed- on the back of each tile. HAPPINESS. Hopefully French folk who order the tiles don't read that out loud in the presence of les anglais.

Ya lost me with '... Much in the same way the 5 cell ones... ' I'd 'a made a brilliant electrician.

Here's the Bosch version of the same issue.

So, you live in a hut way out in the back end of nowhere, all of grid. You get bitten by some little criter - and get cellulitis, followed by the inevitable fever, start feeling lethargic . By good fortune, you've got some antibiotic. But that runs out..... Takes guts to die like that.

My son used to work as a tree planter in Canada. Earned enough in a few months to last the year. Some of his older more experienced mates had, after a few years of intense hard work earned enough to be able to retire. It's not unknown for ex tree planters to hitch a heli ride out into the Bush, pick a spot, fell some trees, build a log cabin and live there unmolested for as long as they were well enough to survive. The issue here is lack of space. In Canada you can actually disappear into the wilderness. It's all fun and games until the myocardial infarction or dental abscess. Hence its common to find such off gridsters tending a large weed farm. Bear tastes like wild boar I hear.

You sure thats not illegal ?

Exactly right. And wrong. The rodding point will be exactly where the yellow spot is.....

Thanks for the thought @epsilonGreedy Have another look at this image .... The yellow dot represents another connection running vertical at that position (as yet not fitted) coming from the roof of the piggery, a washing machine and small sink. (sanctioned by the BCO) The piggery is to be used as a laundry. The arrangement agreed with the BCO is that the swept 135 (posted above) should provide for a roddable line which enters the as yet blanked off end of the 135 - as well as an outlet for the shower. Cats and skinning comes to mind. As well as digging by hand.

said the man..... well I wasn't to know that grey stuff wasn't certified was I? So I grabbed some 11s and 22s ( BM open FGS!!!!!) and My god, spraying silicone (sorry, KY) on three piping corners and then trying to twist them to the right shape is like Turkish oil wrestling. Ya cant get yer hand to grip anywhere. Those pipe straps worked a treat. Now, how do I test this little branch of my system? I can't block the inside of the I/C can I? (Normal stoppers are too big)

Thank you very much @JFDIY. Its very kind of you to lay out one way of sorting out my loo and shower drains. I am only just discovering the joys of making your own foul drainage runs. And playing with 45s, 30s , 22s and 11s is a pleasure that I have never had until today. It's a bit like playing with your grandchildrens' transformer toys. Just for fun, I had a go at making a loop out of all my corners : well, it is Friday after all. I take the point about the loo being on the main run : it makes emminent good sense to do that. You have taught me to look a bit harder at the layout of the base of the I/C. I'll remember that for next time. The complication of needing to add another run to that I/C (at a later date) and having to hand dig in what is now rock hard clay means I'll stick with the piping layout that we currrently have. But thanks all the same. Ian