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By now, I can throw a scaffold up in a morning : safe, level and built with an eye to making it easier to take down. Roof ladder delivered Monday. So far so good. But, as is the way with stuff I do, the first thing I manage to bugger up is breaking a tile - one thats right next to the gutter and 100 mm above the scafffold platform on which I'm standing. Unaccountably, I just picked my foot up and put it on the tile. The outrage I felt when it cracked. How dare it! So now there are two to replace. Eeeeejit. Heave the roof ladder up and wheel it gingerly to the roof ridge, and roll it over so the hooks on the other side. And just then, just at that moment, I start feeling uneasy. But pleased - success afterall innit - roof ladders in place ? Over the years I have come to trust that 'feeling' Sheeeet. The other side of the roof is full of solar panels, some very close to the ridge. Off the platform, shoot down the scaff ladder , scoot round to where I can see the hook - and sure enough the ladder hook is resting on one of the solar panel. Ferkety Ferkety Fookety fook. I haven't put any weight on the ladder. Here, look at this: the cracked tile I need to mend is marked in red. Can't take a joke? Don't self build. Wot's to be done folks? (Hired roof ladder on its way back already)

Oooooofffff. Hard work indeed,

That's a good result. Jezza of Blessed Memory said it took him about a fortnight of fiddling about with his settings.

You bad man. Very bad. Poo.

It does go over, and there is a seal ... but the best laid plans of mice and men: should have sealed the edge of the cut hole as well. Nowt for it: bigger sink and a big smile on my face when I suggest it. Thanks @Ferdinand

? Just before Christmas But I cut through the laminate to make the 'ole for the sink. I think I'll go on that cruise @epsilonGreedy .... mind you that could be a death sentence - but come to think of it I'm facing one anyway.

I forgot to seal the edges of the hole I cut for the sink. And now she's noticed that the 'grain' in the chipboard worktop is rising right next to the sink - a bit not too much. Her fault for splashing around too much ?

Welcome. You are in good company here. Many stories of similar searches for land ; you can draw encouragement from members who have shown the success grit and determination brings. We're five years in, and probably five more to go (SWMBO wants the perfect garden ? - guess whose job that'll be). One word sums much of the job up - persistence.

That looks wonderful - and the perfect garden too - no mowing. Is that local stone - it looks very well contrasted with the cladding.

Stick to the knitting. The house. You are building in a period of significant organisational change. Prices are not stable. Put plenty of ducting in (with pull throughs) so that you can network anything you're going to need

Thats turned my Sunday night dram of single malt sour in my mouth .... need another to wash out the taste.

Still greatly enjoying the times Russ actually writes those words... cheers me up no end. Thanks.

Tryin' to tell us you are sitting starkers while having a coffee? This weather? Brave lad.

Happy start to 2021 from my BM. Nothing about thanks for your custom.... do hope you'll be working with us in 2021 ....

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Its mad, but probably not one-off-mad, I fear

Lust can be (is almost always) unrequited.

Lusting after a Bosch ... what's new about a Bosch wanting a Bosch? ?

Hmmm, looked at YT in relation to leak tracing and thermal cameras - it seems that it's not such a silly idea at all. January sales : I feel another tool beconing ... Anyone got a recommendation about thermal imaging cameras?

Our ridge is dry. Ridge tiles double nailed ( yes, nailed)..... Under those tiles, there's a corrugated flexible ridge membrane. I have mislead you all about the roof build up: On top of the joists is a wooden batten that runs along the joists (25mm) [There's a 25mm gap between the top of the insulation and the top of the joists - 50mm gap in all] The there's the felt - with slightly slack trough to allow water to run to the centre of the gap between the joists On top of that is the metal batten which holds the metal formers which hold the ceramic tiles. I was incredulous when on our Piggery, a chippy foamed the tiles in place : and appropriately professionally cross. "How's the air going to circulate round the roof space?" I kid you not, this was the answer ..... "We don't worry about that oop 'ere . We allus duz that 'ere......"

Yes Peter. So my theory is that there are two sources: a small crack in the tiles (rain), a rip or two in the felt, AND under-tile condensate taking unfair advantage of the holes. Thanks for the thought @epsilonGreedy, but no. The drip is localised to the edges of two sheets of PB. Doesn't mean that that's the source though. Does anyone think that a thermal imager might offer a clue to trace the leak back to it's source? There will be a temperature difference won't there..... idea?

Yes. The temperature of the air mass - from the south west warm, but wet - so little or no condensate. Freezing / very cold north wind promotes condensation ... drips I agree: thats what worries me. Nowt for it but to get up there, pull some tiles off and have a look see. Thats one thing that's bloody brilliant about self building. I know exactly what to look for, and I can get on with it virtually on my own. Photos to follow. Ian

Here's one to keep our @Russell griffiths happy, and to help reduce @SteamyTea's Schadenfreudesucht. Please could you review my thinking, and see if I've missed something. Thanks. Two years ago, just after the roof was tiled with Nulock cermaic tiles, a bit of a hooley blew up: long story short it blew some scaffolding planks off the scaff and onto the roof. Live and learn. Next time scaff plank clips. ? Here's part of what the storm did. and here's how I repaired it The photos were taken when the storm was still pretty full-on: I was clipped to the scaffolding with a full harness. Nulok is easy to replace though - and I was keen to get the job done to prevent further damage. Fast forward two years. Drip, drip...... WTF !!! how's that happened then? Dry up to now why, how, bugger it ... Debbie looked at me and didn't say If ya can't take a joke, don't self build . (my signature line) There's not much of a drip. In the recent South Westerly storm that knocked us all on our heels, (warm wind), not a drop came through the roof - or perhaps better put, not enough water leaked in the roof to come through the roof build up . When its frozen outside, there's no drip. When there's cold northerly rain, there is a drip. The roof build up is; Tiles Metal Batten Felt Counterbatten 200mm insulation (between joists) 100mm underboarding insulation batten 12.5mm PB Neither was there a drip when it froze ... this morning - freezing - no drip before we popped out to the shops, but there was a drip when we got back. Temperature had risen by 5 degrees...... No rain - but there was ice on the roof when we left, - the roof was dry when we got back. As I write this, the damp patch has all but disappeared in the PB. There is no roof space, so I cant see the exposed underside of the roof from inside. Heres a cross section - Why did it happen now? A bit of head-scratching and came up with the following - what have I missed? The repair to the tiles was done under pressure: it was quite dangerous - windy enough to be fully harnessed and clipped on. The repair to the tiles took about 15 minutes. Nulok is very easy indeed to replace - throw the broken tiles off the roof, slide in a new one. They simply clip in. What I did NOT DO was inspect the underlying felt because I was worried about being blown off the roof. I bet I simply missed a small rip or two in the felt...... If thats correct, given sufficient temperature contrast, there would be condensation on the bottom of the tiles. And maybe there's a bit of ponding on the felt... and the water makes its way through the small rip. And because its small hole, it takes ages to show up. Maybe it took that long to trickle through over 300mm of roof build up. Anyway, have I missed something? Constructive comments welcome. @PeterStarck - what do you think? (I ask becaue you have Nulok) Tomorrow, scaff goes up, fetch a roof ladder (although you can walk on Nulok tiles) and then a wait until there's a long enough weather window to whip some tiles off to look-see. Bye bye 2020. Lets hope 2021 is better eh?

I bet Ed has ( @Construction Channel ) .... Wake up Ed. Baby keeping you up at night .... ? ?

We hear more noise from water running through the metal guttering than from the roof. Mind I'm writing this in a very heavy hail shower - we can hear that just fine.