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Been behind on the kitchen chaps/ family stuff & work. Slow progress but sill 1 & splashback done. Will try catching up on the ceiling light today..

Ok Ive got to start considering next bit now. Sill 1 is done with splashback. Sill 2 has a bigger H "splashback" bit which will need to be tiled prior to fitting the sill. Does anyone know if this tile adhesive is still o to usek after being opened & a little used/ then stored for ~1 year? https://www.screwfix.com/p/mapei-buildfix-wall-tile-adhesive-off-white-15kg/5832c

Nothing obvious at all Ed to say so.

@Onoff hi Onoff.. the 2nd grey cable into the switch box, has only a red & earth. Nothing cut back/ its a thinner grey cable. I do see a loop of red wire poking out of the ceiling hole.. with what may be a small clear placcy junction stuffed up: but its not easy to pull this red loop down/ out, & should I try to I might disconnect whatever it is up there. Its too annoying to have to get an electrician in just to do such a simple 10m job. Electrics- I don't have anything else bar this to do.

Its the only switch for the light.. the red on its own, Im not sure what you mean by a cut back twin/ do you mean is the black in the grey end @ top of pic, cut off here-? as you can see there are only 3 terminals at the switch point.. not 2 black/ 2 red: Ive never seen this before.

@ProDave I always turn the -whole- house power off (double red flip switch RHS, crabtree consumer unit) before even venturing to look inside a front plate or a ceiling plate.. rather than isoltate just the circuit in Q.. or peeping inside a live front plate, as qualified sparks tend to do. Cheers, zootH

Hi Onoff, one switch only (2 grey cables coming in).. ..

Hi Dave- do you mean poked -up- through this hole? IE tucked away.. I'm trying to figure out, firstly, how/ why this is wired as it is. I like to establish these things 1st, make sense, then to proceed..

Chaps, as I'm doing the electrics, I'm wanting to replace a horrible ikea 4x halogen lamp (one unit), for a simple single ceiling rose. Looking inside it, here, instead of finding 3 grey cables with L, N & Earth as I expected.. I find only *2x black Neutrals, 1x red Live, & 2x earths. How do I wire a standard ceiling rose up to these 5 wires coming down from ceiling? I know there are other lights along from/ in this circuit, as I had an intermittant fault with 3 other lights adjacent areas (UT, bathroom, above/ outside back door).. & fixed it by finding one of the *2x black Neutrals had come loose. thanks, zootH

Ah yes my mistake.. H is always height to me. Yup pvc trim, cheap as chips.

H splashback.. means..? sorry not on board. Im sticking a 3cm x 8mm window-trim placcy rounded edges white job.. as a cheapo splashback. Im gluing it to pB behind sink area/ sill front edge. So do I leave a small gap to the worktop below to silicone after, or meet the two/ no gap-? cheers Peter.. really given me the impetus back just finishing off this. makes a stack of difference/ a solid 'finished' feel.

Chaps- this piddly 3cm H splashback upvc trim Im glueing on.. shall I leave a gap below to the worktop, fill after with white silicone.. or meet it to the worktop, then add a bead along after? seems a v.important bit this/ fallible area for water ingress. best do it spot-on. Done the last pB last ev/ all electrics (47mm backboxes.. ripped out old ones, ply shims in/ tapped to get my outline on pB, shims undone/ new deeper boxes set in.. & frontplates flush-mounted with longer screws). Soudalled gaps. Just strip of pB along btm & skirting can go over. Splashback & sills doing this wknd. Thanks zoot

Good- no wings then.. much better. So I'm putting the placcy strip on with grab adhesive, leaving a 5mm gap below (& above to sill if I can).. then fill it with mould-resistant white silicone like Dow 825+ sanitary stuff? hope so.

Opinion please: cutting the sill.. should I give it some side 'wings' ? IE like a T shape with bits overhanging the sides L & R.. or leave as a 'slab'? tiling around its piddly wing bits will be a major faff surely is what I'm thinking.. or is this a std job to take on board/ a nifty trick to it. And what should I attatch my upvc window strip onto the pB with? clear sealant or grab stuff?

Hi Peter, I was onto this very stuff today in fact after seeing a chap buy it who said 'its stable if dry'.. in TP its stored in the open area, & dead flat so should be fine. yup 2 coats on the primed surface, just as I was thinking again too- looks like the way to go. Splashback area below: if I protrude sill out 3/4" to 1" above it then it'll barely be seen @ only 3cm H. So got some cheapo white window trim 9mm x 3cm (x 5 bloomin metres!) for it. I'd be a week searching for wood effect stuff around here, then cut to 3cm/ a major faff. N/a as an ebay item or posted being 1.5m long too. So a compromise yes.. but it'll have to be.

Well I'm not thinking that with this job.. actually the opposite really for maybe 1st time ever (shows how good the help's been). Its bound to go tlts up soon mind you.. just the word 'plastering' makes me shivver, & the solid wood door I hung last year, with plenty of coats of X, & nice gaps.. (has just decided/ coinciding with weather change/ just when I got tops on) to barely close now, so I'm pretty concerned about the tops.

Room's cold, only weather is damp.. basically I do a bit, then admire my handiwork.. for quite a while until I'm forced to do some more.

Aha.. ok that's a plan. So I screw near the fronts into the batten below the ISO pB.. & grab adhesive onto the pb twds the back: is grab stuff the best idea here? if it tries to bow up @ back, won't it just lift/ rip the paper face off the pB tho? pB still seems so fallible to me. I think once I get splashback + sills done it'll give me impetus to go onward to tile. I'm having more major inertia-set-in now 2 tops are done!

Ok got some of that ok. Right that's a plan. Is the pine sill stuff normally available do you know? ie thicker 1" with a rounded edge. I usually see it certainly in this house & it looks std fayre bought-as stuff, rather than a routered edge.

I'll have a look in the 'sheds' tmrw TP etc. I had pine on there before (sill) whci seemed stable & flat.. but now I am concerned about warping/ bowing of it. How strong a bond do you think soudal foam would be for a pine sill > pB below?

I think the cheapest way, & simplest for me might be a (painted-white) pine sill like my old one, can do a lip bit either side protruding L & R 'wing' bits.. with a nice round front edge. Then as this lip sticks fwd a good bit, the 3cm splashback below hidden more > so white placcy 9mm strip. Good links, will look see for similar in town.

Cheers for that onoff, another good sketch..& ideas too. I must say tho I havent seen one for me yet: the white won't match sink (cream) & I think won't compliment the worktops just plastic. Cheap tho I'm sure. Any other ideas? Ive 4x Osmo oiled tops & it feels very waterproof & smooth- great finish/ I'm pleased with the tops (although trying their best to bow up.. alarming).And the tap is fine too- very nice in fact if BIG. Sink I'm onto Franke about- driving me mad. Its not hygenic to have 1/2 a cup of sitting water permanently under the plate drainer.. esp here with our moist climate. I won't be able to change it now.. but will try to get some surface material stuff to apply on after Ive filed or cut these damn drops down.. or a refund if not the whole cost back so annoyed I am by this.

Ahhh... love it. Hang on tho, nearly finished??.. spits tea!! I'm only half way through!

@PeterW , is the idea with the 400 to use -between- coats, or just the innitial raw surface-? I notice after 1st coat the supersmooth feel isn't quite there anymore.