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Hang on. the kitchen stuff stops. for this 50-pages-musical-interlude. now..

Right Ive cooled down.. but the Vax (not the belching one) is pretty potent, checked all inc bag's ok.. hose hangs off my hand upside down/ engine strains, usually a sign all working ok: but I get your point; it may need some more clout than just a 'house' vac. Itsa henry size/ power/ type tho.. a bit ballsier usually than a house vac. Anyway to crack on: ok I'll try a very well wrung cloth. dammit Id hoped my new mirkin would do me for my 2 big pB bedroom jobs in the spring.

Ok got the no-nonsense 'bare plaster' stuff. I just hope to god its ok to apply onto bare plasterboard as most of my 2 walls are.. I googled stuff for priming bare pB but there's little info/ nothing specifically for it. Prior to this Im having a major headache- dust. Ive tried the mirka & only a small ammount of dust is being collected, it clogs very badly & proving near completetely ineffective too/ my tops & the walls are covered in fine dust/ finest Ive ever seen. its dreadful (Im demanding my money back- the hose near impossible to fit onto the sander.. & some terrible designed end > onto a std dia vac hose isn't even possible, as it can only be designed to fit onto. so gaffered it on but still ng). So how do I remove all this dust from the pB's? I cant sponge surely as the surface barely takes a drop of water its so fallible. I cant brush as the dust is so fine I need major protective stuff, & it'll cover my kitchen too. I may have to vac inch by inch. godammit.

Nice one.. if my new mirkin gets to me fri, then I'm going at it hammer & tongs over wknd. Can you remind me, not sure if I asked specifically b4, what am I priming the -bare- pB with again, once my plaster areas on it are all sanded flush? Appreciated- zoot

Bought it.. I'll gaffer tape the bugger onto my hose if it doesn't behave! then maybe I can have the Vax out the window in case it dust-belches (free delivery @ toolstation that was the clincher/ great. impressive that). I'm on a roll when this gets here.. & it'll surely help me attack this b'stard other wall's stuck-on paint too.

Or does the mirka hose.. fit onto your Earlex hose Onoff-?

My hose for my Vax, is one of these fittings.. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FITS-VAX-4-LUG-PIN-CONNECTOR-HOSE-PIPE-MODEL-25-040-220-240-020177/132672109967?hash=item1ee3dfbd8f:g:R1EAAOSw9DZZ5Muy:rk:3:pf:0 Surely I must have the mirka hoover end exactly as per mine tho.. it looks totally different (& odd.. fast 'n bulbous like).

I have a vax 25-040 Ive just remembered (!) like a henry sort of.. so could give this a go: but will the hose fit tho? how the heck am I meant to know this.. is there a universal type that henrys use or summink? I read these mirka kit things do fit henrys..

Christ thank god for that then! Ok now this Mirka sander thingy, is designed for use with its 'shop-vac' type special vac.. which I assume has bag membranes fine enough to trap the v.fine dust. I tho only have a std house hoover, which farts out big dust clouds when its not happy, like for eg when I swept the chimney.. Is it a no/no to use theses mirka £30 sander jobs with other vacs, rather than its own job?

Turns out I did, in fact, use this same bartoline stuff Onoff actually linked to from homebase @ £8 (but mine £4.50 from Charlies/ great stuff too).. https://www.homebase.co.uk/bartoline-plaster-skim-2-5l_p427758 Im going to have to get the vacuum sander thing.. trying to find the link.. as I cannot stand dust/ makes me so flamin cross.

Electric sander.. christ the dust/ I don't think I can bear doing it like so, anyway I'll cross this bridge next week.. I need to ask a dedicated decorator, or do a new thread to get some more ideas 1st. At the mo I'm just about ready to sand the plaster on the pB walls > base coat > then paint! will look proper tarty after that, & spur my ass to get on with other sod walls.

Im just reading up about 'paper lining' as apparantly is one pg1 idea for just such a paint-get-off ballache. but urgh.. paste n tables n gloopy sheets with jizz everywhere.. Hey don't I get a prize for page 50?? I don't see -anything- in my inbox, or mods asking for my address to send me things..

I guess worth a try.. I just want to avoid a sticky white mess, if shifting paint from plaster tho. I really need a pro decorator to lend an opinion here.. be a shame to fk up the opposite wall to my 2 masterpieces!

Ive used a slim blade long handled scraper, as fine a blade as poss.. but still it cant remove this. it just gouges into the plaster. I need some sort of solution/ gubbins.. is there not some sort of paint stripper stuff, for plaster, not the nasty zoot-get-high-again whiffy stuff.

Maybe this is the way to go, thanks Mr. Punter. I do find the paint extremely thin, the stuff I can't scrape off/ what's left.. just thought even a thin layer left, on would be visible & let the overall finished look down significantly.

Yup bought a steamer for this.. but even so its welded on, & if I whack steamer on for big time, I blow the plaster off. Its a huge b'stard pain this. Steamer got me to this stage of wall.. a massive ammount of hard graft went in to get to this. More of the same is just out-the-question; that's how stuck on this paint is.

Well apart from the HUAGE job of doing basically same-as-I-done-here but with 2" Celotex, & 1st ripping out 3 pB walls in each upstairs beds1&2 (a job I simply -have- to do albeit a fknbigsod), & funny you should ask Onoff.. cos there's one glaring thing to do, & before the winter proper.. Above kitchen, is a loft joining onto bedroom2. Ah but no solid stone 2ft thick wall here: instead a big old window 'area'.. IE a hole nothing/ zilch. And in bed2, a layer of ply * covering me hole, tagged to the pB wall. Seriously: a bit of ply between bed2 & outside cold air! so I is gotta block it up- boomshanka! Thankfully due to * I can get at it from bed2, rather than a pig of a job doing it from loft side- a major help. A piece of p*ss job I hope tho/ just an a'noon, I just need as much insulation in as I can, so will ask your good advice/ will get a pic up soon.

Done the 2nd plaster coat.. gonna be a sod sanding as I couldn't get too smooth with pits & ridges.. but I can't hang about now. On another note: 2nd pic.. Ive got alot of very hard to get off paint from this opposite wall. How best to get this off? this is the remenants after a huge graft scraping what I could off.. I just can't get all this off just scraping.

Ok thanks chaps.. yes I know what I should have done Onoff! tbh I cant even remember where the roll is. How do I sand & not rip the fallible pB face-?

@Onoff @newhome @PeterW Anyone know anything about the taper-edge pB joining tape? to aid the plastering of 2x taper-edge pB's. I know it should be put on before, or during, the 1st plaster layer.. but having never used before I simply forgot to put it on. So the 1st plaster layer is dry & about to do 2nd layer, but unsure whether to add the tape now, or just continue without it.

Great no more black screw heads! 2nd pic: as you can see not the smoothest surface to put the tape on.. but I do have 2mm taper-edge dip still to 'fill' ( & 2mm filled after this 1st layer more or less). The bartoline plaster is a total bargain btw.. perfectly decent quality, so far as I can tell, maybe even very good. £4.49 for 6kg tub.

Update- will be putting on a 2nd plaster layer over the seams on saturday, & the window edge areas (these are tricky). One thing I forgot.. the paper-taper-tape! dammit. What do you think; Ive got about 2mm of concave/ dip to level out with the 2nd layer & the large 10" spatula thingy (FishFlipper I call it).. should I put onto this dried 1st layer, or forget it now? its not very smooth tho as as best I could get it so far isn't smooth.. I used the flat side of the smaller 5" end of my tile adhesive trowel thing (the 10" FF too impractical for 1st layer). Not an easy job this plastering job for a newbie.. I'm dreading sanding afterwards, both for dust & catching the pB paper face with the sander pad.

Ok gonna go for my 2nd then- cos its £4.50 a 6kg tub! (one might do me, & its got 'plaster' in its spiel too) 1st no-nonsense gubbins £14.. & your posh stuff.. £32!!

So should I be looking for 'jointing compound' then instead of 'plaster' maybe? there must be a similarity tho surely.

Onoff- you're opinion on these 2 plasters please.. Ive taken the huage 20kg knauff bag back/ just too wasteful to use only 1/5th & bin. These two are the only stuff available, to me here. Do you think one ok for using with tape for my taper edge filling & placcy tile edge feathering? https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-ready-mixed-plaster-white-10kg/23226 This one says max 3mm deep.. https://www.homebase.co.uk/bartoline-plaster-skim-2-5l_p427758