Dillsue
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We have a propane back up boiler in the centre of the house with no concerns about 47kg bottles of gas connected to soldered gas pipework. Much lower pressure but the connected volume is massively more.
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Ah! I thought a previous post said you were adding PV to existing but if its not a hybrid youll need a new hybrid inverter or non hybrid plus G99
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The inverter you already have seems to be a hybrid so can have solar panels connected as well as the batteries you already have. Did you tell those quoting that you already have a suitable inverter? Not sure why they seem to be including for an inverter when you seem to have a useable one already??? If you pay by credit card the supplier has to pay a fee to the card provider which I think is 1.5-3%. That's quite a chunk of cash so I can understand why they dont want you to pay with a credit card
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Combined community and household PV and battery storage
Dillsue replied to Stones's topic in Photovoltaics (PV)
I'd imagine distributing the surplus evenly to the rental houses would be technically quite complex, maybe bespoke and likely costly. Given that it's free electricity being dished out which is more or less the same as giving cash away, I'd imagine it could cause some friction if it wasn't shared evenly. -
If you want to future proof any cable requirements, you can run a conduit past any areas that will become difficult to pull a cable in the future. Drop a draw wire in to!
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Maybe think along the lines of exporting surplus to the grid helps you local hospital or school run on greener electricity. Your DNO doesnt trade in electricity so they're not taking the mickey.
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What's the inverters rated max output?? With the PV and battery coming through the inverter, its likely the inverters output that limits the max draw??
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Bear in mind that if the panels are facing different directions the peak install will never be peak generation. We have a 3.6kw inverter with a max specified DC input of 5.7kw but its got 8.5kw of panels hooked up that are spread over 180 degrees.
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You can change a FIT system- OFGEM changed the rules a little while back☺ You can change components, add batteries and increase PV capacity. If increasing the PV capacity you only get paid for the FIT accreditted capacity. In your case if you went from 4 to 5kw you only get FIT payments for 4/5 of what you generate/export.
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Workiñg for builders and LA doesnt necessarily mean competance in a domestic scenario. There are limits to how much power you can push into the grid. On a construction site or LA site there maybe a consultant that deals with the DNO months or years before your installer gets to site so they never interface with the DNO or consider constraints. In your domestic install you are trusting them to ensure compliance, but you carry the can if they haven't done things correctly. If you can't get the details off the inverter, its probably worth asking them if they have exceeded G98 limits and if they have, that a G99 is in place. If they are evasive or dont understand what you are asking, then you have your answer on their competance!!
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The number of panels isn't really relevant, its the inverter capacity thats relevant. If its the installer thats telling you the number of panels is relevant then either they're not explaining things very well or they dont know what they are doing!!! There'll likely be a data plate on the inverter so you may be able to see the inverter details
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Can you use Hybrid battery inverter without solar input?
Dillsue replied to BMcN's topic in Energy Storage
Ok. If the cable is SPs then its a no no but if its yours then it might be your only option. If its a straight duct the SWA should pull back in ok, if youve got enough room not to bend it as its drawn out. Getting cable rods over 70 metres is alot of rods! I think you can blow/vac lightweight cables through ducts but not sure how successful that would be with a chunky cable in the duct already -
@patp A few pointers for you. UKPN are unlikely to be interested in how many panels or the panels output youve got. What they are interested in is what your inverter can export onto the grid and thats not necessarily the capacity of your panels. Without getting permission you can export 3.68kw per phase so with your 3 phase inverter youre limited to 11kw, unless you have permission to export more. If you already have an 11kw inverter and its being replaced with a bigger one, you need permission from UKPN. If youre not bothered about that its fine, but the concern could be that your questionable installation company maybe steaming ahead with something that is technically illegal. If thats what they are doing then you might want to consider their credentials. Maybe worth finding out what they're up to as ultimately its your responsibility.
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Can you use Hybrid battery inverter without solar input?
Dillsue replied to BMcN's topic in Energy Storage
Use one of the cables in the duct to pull a draw wire in then use thd draw wire to pull the cable back together with the new data cable?? -
Are you sure? AFAIK rule of thumb is 4 amp per kw so 5kw is circa20amp. Likely easily handled by 2.5mm cable over half a meter, but..... If youre going to increase the RCBO rating to 32amp, youll need to increase cable size.
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Almost certainly a design/installation balls up! Do you know how much youre generating at any particular time?? Without an accessible realtime indication its very difficult to schedule your usage. If you got 46 panels youve likely got quite a sizeable generation capacity and even in the winter may be generating enough to not have to worry to much about scheduling loads. Do you know what the kwp rating of the panels is?
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Can you use Hybrid battery inverter without solar input?
Dillsue replied to BMcN's topic in Energy Storage
Can you hook up the new inverter and batteries to your existing solar and keep the existing inverter for the extra PV in the future?? If the hybrid Solis is G98 limited it would save any concerns with the DNO now -
Solar+Battery - more PV AC coupled vs less PV hybrid?
Dillsue replied to DragonQ's topic in Photovoltaics (PV)
Definitely check the back up interface is available and certified for the UK. Its been available overseas for a while but if its now certified for the UK its a fairly recent event- I think last year or so. AFAIK, Energybank is Solaredges current battery offering for new systems and connects directly to the current HD wave inverters. I think the LG batteries are now intended to be used with a storedge interface for adding batteries to older inverters. I think you can still hook up LG batteries to the current inverters but it doesnt seem to be the norm. Maybe theres a cost saving with LG batteries and Storedge interface vs energybank??? -
Watched the video but without sound so don't know if they covered this, but does the vector summing only happen in real time as in export only negates the same import if the two are happening at the same time? An example would be importing 4kw on L1 and at yhe same time exporting 2 x 2kw on L2+3 so the sum would be zero. If it doesnt have to be balanced in real time, then am I right in thinking you could export 2 x 5kwh on L2+3 through an afternoon and then import 10kwh through the evening giving a sum of zero???
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Another problem with using an 8kw inverter on a single phase is that youll need to get DNO permission to put more than 3.68kw on a single phase. I dont know what criteria a DNO would use to accept that set up, but I would have though they would expect you to balance the 3 phases wherever possible and would likely reject 8kw on one phase and zero on the other 2 when all 3 phases could quite easily be balanced. If I remember correctly on a G99 application one of the conditions you have to confirm is that there wont be more than a 16 amp difference between phases. I guess thats important to the grid??
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Probably not but speak to youre supplier as they may have a standard fitment. I think its mentioned above that net metering is part of the smart meter spec and that's what a bit of googling suggests too. It seems a great way to avoid MCS cost and get "paid" for all your export at the same rate charged for import. Just the cost of a 3 phase upgrade to fret about but it seems a no brainer for a new build if available
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No experience with 3 phase inverters but assume that a 3 phase hybrid inverter will output battery energy evenly across all 3 phases so net metering will still use the battery output to offset an equivalent import?? I assume if theres 8kw load on L1, inverter will provide 8/3 on each phase to try and meet demand on L1 leaving the shortfall on L1 covered by grid import. That import would be offset by the unused export on L2 and 3??? Is that how it works??
