Roger440

This post alone, marks you out as an extemely rare. For clarity im not of the view that most bricklayers are poor. Im of the view most cant install insulation. Thats not the same thing.

The whole system is broken. Few people have pride in their work. Theres no supervision. The result is inevitable. Summary, no one gives a shit. If you did supervise or oversee, it would cost more, so theres zero incentive to do that either. People will buy the houses no matter how poor they are. Ok, a bit extreme as some clearly do care, but they are in a small minority, so the bulk of building will be poor. And is. I dont think theres "a fix". Only inevitable decline in standards.

Im not sure "not being possible to stop it" is quite the right phrase. Not being able to fund it will bring it to a halt, nothing else. There is only so much tax you can raise, as the current clown show are fast finding out. Couple that with out complete inability to manage large infrastructure projects, running out of money is inevitable. Should make HS2 look like a minor blip. As i said before, i hope you like the future being created for us. And when it arrives, you can look around at the destruction and think, yes, im pleased we did that. Everyones life is worse, good job. Its not a future i wish for or can support. Its not possible to persuade me that the destruction of our way of life, prosperity, health and wealth is a good idea. Especially, as all our efforts will make no difference whatsoever.

No need to track it down. It was 400bn, not 40bm.

Yep. And i say again, its NOT going to change. However much you want it too. They "could" change it tommorow. Which again, can only lead to the conclusion that high prices are intentional and deliberate.

So, the thought " why would they want to do that" doesnt enter your head? You just accept it at face value. You clearly have far greater faith in our glorious leaders than i do. If the direction of travel isnt obvious to you, i dont think i can help.

Sorry, thats rubbish. They clearly are not capable for the most part. Its quite obvious that the concept of a continous layer just isnt understood. Surely thats just bloody common sense? No one trained me to do any of the things i do in my house, but i apply myself, understand it, and i have pride in my work. When i ran my own business, we, almost daily, came up against things we didnt know or understand. So we figured it out. There was no one available to come and hold my hand or tell me what to do.

Really? How about something like this: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/663b7d0c1834d96a0aa6d299/sses-2024-consultation-first-phase-regulations-analytical-annex.pdf Yes, i know its wrapped up in warm words about security threats, to cloud the issue. But its demand management. And of course, surely you know, that if something is in short supply, prices can only go one way? Oh, and the law passed last year that allows the minister to dicatate what electrical appliances you can have. They can now force you to replace perfectly servicable devices with "internet enabled" ones so that they can dicate when you use it. And jail time if you fail to comply. Sounds just like the actions you would take if you wewre confident you could meet demand.....................................

Thats wonderful. It tells us whats happened. Sadly, it tells us nothing about whats going to happen. Except we know whats going to happen, because, handily, government have told us. Shortage of supply, remote demand management and ever increasing prices. In some respects im fairly relaxed on the basis we all know government cannot deliver the things they say they will. Especially when the money runs out.

Good summary Which is the utterly ludicrous part. We are just off shoring it. Stangely, because we still want all the benefits of modern life. As you say, if/when, we progress the destruction of our way of life, it will certainly be interesting if those same people urging us down that road are quite as keen when it impacts them.

Its just another example, of many, where the technology, has fast overtaken the skills and ability of the people who have ended up with it on their plate. Just like cars. The motor trade, by and large, is ill equipped to deal with vehicles as they now are. Im not offering a solution, as i dont see one. It requires people of greater technical ability and understanding to ensure these tasks are done correctly. However, the reality is, such people are unlikely to choose a career of standing in mud and working in the freezing rain, when there are so many other options available to them.

Agreed. Problem is, it will be more than deindustrialisation. Its the complete destruction of life as we know it. Those flag waving for it, are either sufficently wealthy to be insulated from the effects, or unable to see the consequences of said net zero policies. Sunlit uplands it certainly isnt. Fortunately, well, probably, i shall be dead before it gets really bad. Meanwhile, the rest of the world will sit around pointing at us, while there living standard go up.

If it costs more, which is of course possible, then as i say, priceless, as i get to choose when to be warm. If oil gets too expensive v elecricity (which id rate as "highly unlikely") then i can add a heat pump, but keep the oil. So i can still not be a victim, because when Ed turns off my heat pump, i can just turn on my oil boiler. Win win.

As far as i need to to be confident that i can be warm regardless. OK, if the apocolypse comes, then all bets are off, as someone withh simply steal what i have, but outside of that, its just a case of insulating onesself from government stuipidity and incompetence and control.

Thats a bit low. Ive done a fair bit of work. But, regardless, still cheaper. And with my new bigger tank, probably cheaper still. But most importantly, i get to decide when i have heat. Thats priceless!

Not doing it to make me "happy". Im doing it to ensure i stay warm. At a temp i decide, not Ed. Edit to add, for clarity, give me electricity at a sensible price in line with much of the world, and convice me, by actions, not words, that you are serious about ensuring the supply remains that way, and ill switch to heat pumps for both house and barn tommorow. The reality however, is lack of supply, planned "management" by the state of your heat pump, the right for the state to dictate which washing machine you can have, and ever increasing prices, suggest that i will be a victim" if i go all electric.

Oil still cheaper. Circa 55p = vat a litre. 10kWh in a liter. Circa 85% efficiency. And an awful lot less buggering about. primary aim at the moment is to buy a 2500l tank so i can pick and choose when to buy oil

I dont have gas. Just oil. Which is cheaper. I can service myself, its not rocket science, and have the infrastructure in place already. Whilst its possible that they may artificially put up heating oil price, given the scale of usage, unlikely id say. Certainly less likely than ever increasing electricity prices and rolling blackouts. On the basis of that brief risk assesement, best stick to oil. If they really did put it up, just switch to red diesel instead. Dirtier to run, but, forced into a corner of be warm and burn disel or be cold, theres only one way im going. No one can know the future, but cheaper electricity definitely isnt in the mix.

Yes, any such device would be outside. No need or desire to pollute ones self. Would be wood, not wood pellets. 12p/kWh is higher than oil, so that would be pointless. Yes, you are of course right about electricity prices pegged to gas. You are right also that it must change. Problem is, it wont. To many people making too much money from the status quo. Government could change that tommorow. But they wont. Id lay good money on it. Im sufficiently convinced that im putting all my efforts into reducing my reliance on electricity insofar as is practical. As i said, im not planning on being a victim.

Where will this stability come from? We are on track to have an intermittent power supply, at the highest prices in the devoped world.

Yep. Got my generator already. It was highly effective after the recent storms when we had no power for 2 days. A handy reminder of what life will be like in the future. Probably need to make my generator firing automatic. Once Ed's finished with us, ill wear my shoes out going to the barn to start the genny manually.

A succesful economy depends on abundant, sensibly priced energy. What you propose is madness. I hope you will be happy with the outcome. I know i wont, and nor will most people.

The answer surely, ignoring practicalities, is someone who understands what insulation is for and how it works. ie, not leaving gaping gaps, or paths for air to get behind it. Sadly, that probably rules out 95% of brickies. They are, after all, brickies. Their skill is laying bricks. I wouldnt go to my dentist and ask him about my back pain. But they are both in the medical profession.

No dam required. Sure, if you start building proper dams, thats a different situation. All i want to do is run a pipe parallel to the stream from a pre existing pool at the highest point. Maybe there should be a middle ground? As it is, its just to hard for the power available. Cheaper just to continue burning oil.

I just want to be warm, as cheaply as possible. Therefore electricity is excluded on cost alone, before we consider future costs and stability of supply.