Roger440

Proving my point once again.

I get all that, i know more about it than i want to. But it is a demonstration of a government run project. And its a small trifling one compared to what Ed has planned. And you think it can go any other way than badly? A bilion or so here and there isnt much to get worked up about on projects like this. But its going to be more than 100 billion over budget. You can do a lot with 100 billion. Its just not sustainable.

Exactly what i was going to say! But i think anyone could have guessed that.

Can you refer me to some succesful government infrastructure projects? Say, in the last 10 years. I can think of one. HS2. What an utter shambles. Assuming its ever finished, its going to be at least five times over budget, and wont deliver half what was planned. And never mind the sheer cost of building it to a bigger gauge for bigger trains. Which now wont be built, because the trains will now have to use the exsisting infrastructure, so will be conventional size. With HS2 it goes on, and on, and on. I do agree with you, that the core services of the nation should be government run, but the damage is done, and is, without a huge long term program of building back up the institutions, impossible to recover

You do keep avoiding the thorny issue of how, whatever you do, is funded? An easy first step is to unpeg renewable costs. Simple. Could be done tommorow. But it wont be, nor next week, or next year, or during my lifetime probably. Making mad money is way more important than worrying about climate change. As i keep saying, no one in authority is serious. Self enrichment comes first. Regardless of anything else, electricity needs to come down, not putting up gas.

Hmmm. Sounds like what i want isnt available? Im not sure i want to get involved in "creating" my own windows though? Rehau do flush casement, but as you say, that might be different. They only fit 34mm to those. Who was willing to do the 36mm? I need to get some numbers from them all i guess and make a decision from there. Slightly thinner triple should still be better. Should!

Only one publishes that. And, in essence, i think you are right, its a triple in the space of a double. Id need to check the figures, but it wasnt up to other triple glazing id seen in more conventional windows. I should probably as all of them to clarify.

Same when i did my garage base. Spent forever getting the thing bob on. Then insulation over, again, no voids taped etc. Concrete guys arrived and asked who did it. Reckon it was the best prep they had ever seen. Certainly doesnt say much for what they usually see.

No practical advice, but id love to do it if i had the right property. A proper way of doing something that will last for decades. Assuming of course, you can still get the "right sort of pitch".

I looking at replacing my 1979 UPVC double glazed units at the front of our cottage with new units. Given its traditional nature(ish) i want to go with flush casement style. I do, however, want to go to triple glazing. This is limiting my options. Ive identified, residence9, evolution and Anglian all offer triple glazed options. Ive not found any others so far. Of these 3, does anyone have opinions on how good they are, particulary the window sealing arrangement as this seems to be the longer term short coming of all modern units ive encountered and had the joy of "adjusting". And also, anyone ive missed? Want to stick to UPVC, so no wood options please.

Double, no, but you are still proposing to artificially, and deliberately make people worse off, to give the money to the leeches! You appear to miss the key point however, that a big chunk of those affected cannot fund a heat pump installation, be they on gas, oil or electric. The capital cost precludes it for most. Doesnt matter if there is a long term saving. Not everyone is wealthy Buildhubber. The price could be 1:1, and it STILL would have limited effect. If you start looking at paybacks, its just a long time. Even for me, i can afford to improve my house insulation etc. But payback is long after my death. So why would i do that? Even replacing my old double glazing with decent triple and im at 40 years plus. Unless you "give" people their heating system upgrade, its not going to happen. I suspect this is where we will end up. The leeches will be rubbing their hands.

Because modern government simply cant run anything. Im not disagreeing with your logic, im of the view that energy should be a state function, but using an example of 40 years ago isnt helpful. We had organisations and institutions capable of delivering such things. (ive said this before). That all gone. Government has no resources, and definitely no ability or competence to build anything at all. Never mind run and maintain it. We are incapable of maintaining anything. Network Rail would be a good example. Fully state owned. Eds self written document makes it clear that huge government sums ((i forget the amount, but it will be way off reality anyway) will be required to create that infrastrucure, even though it will be private enterprise building it. I still say, where will the money come from? We are more likely to go for an IMF bailout than we are to fund a new power distribution.

About 3.

I dont remember it being particuarly high. As i had no other options i didnt focus on it that much. And it was only onew (big) room

I did foamed glass with concrete over. Total depth 240mm. Didnt meet current regs, but light years better than what you have, and avoids any risks of excavating too deep next to existing foundations.

Ive used it, though the main drivers were damp issues in 1800's house, and minimising build up depth. Clearly with the amount i used, we were not achieving building reg level insulation. But, easy, definitely. Id consider it again, be it retrofit or new build.

Welcome back Good news on the resolution.

1 word, "chums".

Whilst your last sentence is indeed very true, and an important point that seems lost on most, but the idea of nationalised renewable is nearly as daft as councils building houses. Within a few years most would be non functional. And where will the money come from to buy them all? Sorry, this is just bonkers.

Of course it has. It wont change in any meaningful way. Consulting is an excellent way of doing nothing.

I think you will find they did! Then you suggest the same, but tempered with the idea that it comes from the general taxation pool. Because there loads of spare cash there! Regardless of if its on gas directly, or on tax generally, its an additional tax on people to deliberately make them poorer. Ill never support that. The real issue, as discussed, is the price of electricity is way to much. Fix that, and you are a big step along the way. And we all know that can be done tommorow. Putting UP gas just lines the pockets of MCS union members and other leeches at the detriment of everyone else. Its just a dumb solution, nor likely to happpen. The fact that electricity prices remain pegged tells you all you need to know about whats really at play..

This is interesting stuff, and like the OP we are starting to see the impact of the October 23 changes. It will certainly make life more difficult for someone actually trying to do some or all of the work themselves. Does suggest, that if you have a contract with architect/ designer or whatever, that it probably needs to include a clause that makes satisfying the BCO of your design a key clause. within the cost. Ive not built a house, and, sadly, have accepted i never will. But if you were, if you dont have this, it falls on the owner to keep paying for re-submissions. I guess it will sort out the designers who know their stuff from those who dont! Then the builder just needs to build to the design. I say "just" in jest. We all know how that can go. Sorry ive contributed nothing to resolving the OP's issues.

I do know said granite chips seem remarkably hard to come by. Bigger, like 10mm, no problem.

Im beginning to think some of you are mad! Clever, but mad. Unpopular headlines would be the least of your problems. Lets look at reality. We double or whatever gas prices. What do we think will happen? A stampede to heat pumps? Not a chance. The majority of the working population get to the end of the month with little or no money in the bank. So you have just made that significantly worse by whacking up gas prices. And then you want them to switch to a Heat pump? So anything from £2-10K lets say? Hows that work? The reality, they will just turn down their heating, (or burn stuff) as they simply have no other choice. Thats before we consider the wider economic impacts. Personally, i wouldnt and couldnt wish that upon my fellow citizens. Clearly others have a different view. Regardless, any government attemting such a thing will be out at the earliest opportunity. Fortunately, for those who have a degree of compassion, highly unlikely to come to pass.

Yes, we suffered thread drift. Yes, Dave original post makes perfect sense. No, nothing will happen. I am, however, against a "charge" being placed by government on the home. Thats the first step towards government taking ownership of private properties.