VAT - Service Disconnection

[andy]

Sorry if this has been covered but I couldn't spot in search.

 

I paid VAT for electrical move to temporary supply and for gas capping at the road as part of demolition process (full PP was already in place).  Should I have paid VAT or should I ask for replacement invoices and get VAT back, if possible?

[Bitpipe]

Nope, moves and changes are VATable services.

 

I think only supply of a completely new service is VAT exempt.

[newhome]

As @Bitpipe says most of the comms from HMRC note ‘new supply’ but given that demolition is covered under zero rating you might be lucky with this. I would take a punt and ask for the invoices to be zero rated. It’ll only cost you the price of a stamp. 

 

@PeterStarck disconnected his services fairly recently. Not sure whether that was zero rated or not. 

[Gone West]

2 minutes ago, newhome said:

 

@PeterStarck disconnected his services fairly recently. Not sure whether that was zero rated or not. 

 

Openreach disconnection was free.

UK Power Networks charged VAT and TBH it wasn't something I thought about, as it was after the VAT reclaim was submitted.

[andy]

Nothing ventured, nothing gained... will ask the question but seeing as it's already been paid for I'm not overly hopeful.

 

Will advise either way once I hear; thanks as ever for the replies.

[newhome]

14 minutes ago, PeterStarck said:

UK Power Networks charged VAT and TBH it wasn't something I thought about, as it was after the VAT reclaim was submitted.

 

You could still ask for the invoice to be zero rated I suspect if you can be bothered ... 

 

 

[Bitpipe]

I tried when doing my demolition in 2015, both gas and electric said no as it was related to existing services, not new supply.

 

Always worth a punt though.

 

Note that if you route your supply & meter to a kiosk and take the new house supply from there then you avoid paying for a second supply move.

 

 

[Tony C]

 I was planning the electric moved from temp builders supply to new house with UKpower network. It sounds like the VAT will be charged then....

[vivienz]

The connection to the new house will be zero VAT as it's a brand new connection to a new dwelling. Not the disconnect, though.

[Temp]

Perhaps someone should argue that it "allows the construction of the building to take place" as per 3.3.4 which covers demolition.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-708-buildings-and-construction/vat-notice-708-buildings-and-construction

Edited January 23, 2019 by Temp

[newhome]

Yes, I can’t see why ripping the roof off or getting a specialist company to remove asbestos is able to be zero rated yet terminating a services supply as part of a demolition cannot be. 

[andy]

I’ve asked the suppliers so will let you all know the responses I get.  It doesn’t make sense as it has to be done to enable demolition, thus building new house but would be expensive fighting this with HMRC for a couple of hundred quid in gain...

[andy]

I have already received a response from the gas folks, VAT will be credited back to my card ?

[newhome]

2 minutes ago, andy said:

I have already received a response from the gas folks, VAT will be credited back to my card ?

 

Cool! See, always worth a punt ?

 

@PeterStarck, ball’s in your court ?

[Gone West]

1 hour ago, newhome said:

 

@PeterStarck, ball’s in your court ?

VAT reclaim's in the past. Working on other things now. Onwards and upwards .

[newhome]

15 minutes ago, PeterStarck said:

VAT reclaim's in the past. Working on other things now. Onwards and upwards .

 

Lol, it just needs an email ?

 

 

[andy]

On 24/01/2019 at 08:48, PeterStarck said:

VAT reclaim's in the past. Working on other things now. Onwards and upwards .

Just received the credit to my account, nothing to do with VAT reclaim process - give it a whirl!

 

You don’t ask, you don’t get ?