National Grid wants to move Electric meters to your boundary/garden

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[Big Jimbo]

Interesting.

[ProDave]

Some of us are ahead of the game here, we chose to put the meter on the boundary while building and then left it there.

 

But if this is a large scale project for a lot of people, whether they want it or not, then lets just hope they make more of a success than the ending of the E7 RTS signal.

[garrymartin]

There's a webinar on Youtube from National Grid about the project. It's basically for retrofit. The idea is that when properties need to be upgraded to support EV charging and heat pump usage, they would provide three-phase at the boundary, and then you can cable to the EV charger and heat pump *externally* without having to go into the house and then back out again. They would just disconnect your single-phase cabling to the house, and then reconnect it to one of the phases in the new three-phase boundary location.

 

 

 

[JohnMo]

What a load of ****. So a typical heat pump draws 8kW from the grid? The typical house in the UK only needs 6kW of heat so running a CoP of 3 that's 2kW - but more likely 1 to 2kW.

 

This country loves to waste money.

[ProDave]

And what they don't tell you is upgrading to 3 phase is not that straightforward.

 

We don't have this magic "3 phase LV cable in the street"  We have a single phase LV cable in the street fed from a single phase transformer up a pole which in turn is fed from a single phase 11KV overhead line.   It spurs off a 3 phase overhead cable at least half a mile away.

 

Then just see how many buildhubbers get very expensive quotes for a new supply because the cable right outside their house is already up to capacity.

 

Frankly if I ever buy an EV and install a charger for it, I am telling nobody.

[-rick-]

1 hour ago, ProDave said:

We don't have this magic "3 phase LV cable in the street"  We have a single phase LV cable in the street fed from a single phase transformer up a pole which in turn is fed from a single phase 11KV overhead line.   It spurs off a 3 phase overhead cable at least half a mile away.

 

It really depends where you live. Most of the population live in more urban areas, these will commonly have three phase in the street. I'm pretty sure the grid know that one size does not fit all, but if there is a solution that is easier for many then it's still useful.

Edited September 22 by -rick-

[Big Jimbo]

Well i live in semi-rural. I've got 3 phase running just the other side of the ditch outside my existing bungalow. I currently have 3 phase connected to the existing bungalow, although only a single phase metered.

So, here's hoping i can get a nice cheap price to bring me in a new 3 phase supply for the new house that i will be building alongside the existing place. I bet i am not going to get life so easy.

[Alan Ambrose]

Someone should tell National Gird to let UKPN know - they sniggered when I said I would like 3P into a kiosk.

[Roger440]

12 hours ago, JohnMo said:

What a load of ****. So a typical heat pump draws 8kW from the grid? The typical house in the UK only needs 6kW of heat so running a CoP of 3 that's 2kW - but more likely 1 to 2kW.

 

This country loves to waste money.

 

I wouldnt worry. None of thats ever going to happen. Well not without charging the customer eleventy billion pounds for it.

 

Its just PR.