New bungalow design

[Kevan Marshall]

Trying to design a bungalow, I gave my architect a sketch and I am now on rev 3, every time I mention something he tries to put his own spin on it, my mates an experienced builder and he advised me to spend a couple of grand more putting heavier ceiling joists, waste pipes, heating pipes and provision for stairs up into loft space so that at a later date I could convert loft for 20k myself and add 100k on property value, aside what my mate said I’ll show you what I proposed and what the architect has drawn up!

[Kevan Marshall]

Just now, Kevan Marshall said:

Trying to design a bungalow, I gave my architect a sketch and I am now on rev 3, every time I mention something he tries to put his own spin on it, my mates an experienced builder and he advised me to spend a couple of grand more putting heavier ceiling joists, waste pipes, heating pipes and provision for stairs up into loft space so that at a later date I could convert loft for 20k myself and add 100k on property value, aside what my mate said I’ll show you what I proposed and what the architect has drawn up!

This was his first design, utility too big, en-suite with crazy sliding shower, stairs coming off main entrance, we have a restricted plot and at this stage can only build a certain size…

[ETC]

What do you want?

[Kevan Marshall]

1 minute ago, Kevan Marshall said:

This was his first design, utility too big, en-suite with crazy sliding shower, stairs coming off main entrance, we have a restricted plot and at this stage can only build a certain size…

 

1 minute ago, Kevan Marshall said:

This was his first design, utility too big, en-suite with crazy sliding shower, stairs coming off main entrance, we have a restricted plot and at this stage can only build a certain size…

 

[Kevan Marshall]

Second design from architect, we need bathroom for guests so jack and Jill is ok from hallway but architect has visitors going through bedrooms…
 

[Kevan Marshall]

What I have proposed 

[ProDave]

I just don't like having to pass through the kitchen to get from the hall to the living room.

 

Stairs from the hall is normal.  Your proposal with the stairs at the back is just awkward.

[Russdl]

As it’s a new build do a warm roof, put the stairs in and floor the loft. VAT back on all that. Great easy access storage space and then stud walls and windows at a later date if the mood takes you. 

[dpmiller]

I like the first one best, just shift the wall slightly to shrink the utility. And do something with the back hall- does it really not have an internal door?

 

Inlaw's bungalow is very similar to this. Loft is floored and the stair opening trimmed out and just PB'd over

[Kevan Marshall]

[Kevan Marshall]

This may be better, slightly wider entrance hall, slightly bigger en-suite and small airing cupboard at end of entrance hall

[Kevan Marshall]

21 hours ago, ETC said:

What do you want?

We are trying to keep it simple and uncomplicated, only have two bathrooms to serve all bedrooms and utilise one bathroom as visitor/disabled toilet, we have to try and not waste any space and have everything in proportion 

[ETC]

[Iceverge]

3 hours ago, Kevan Marshall said:

We are trying to keep it simple and uncomplicated, only have two bathrooms to serve all bedrooms and utilise one bathroom as visitor/disabled toilet, we have to try and not waste any space and have everything in proportion 

 

I might have a go if I get a chance. 

 

Couple of questions. 

 

What's the approx total budget between now and moving in? 

 

Where is south on the site? 

 

Are you proximate to any other houses or are there any nice views you'd like to take in? 

[Iceverge]

I'm not a fan of jack and Jill bathrooms. 

 

There's nicer ways to do it like having a bathroom and bedroom in their own mini corridor with or without a door. 

[Kevan Marshall]

11 hours ago, Iceverge said:

 

I might have a go if I get a chance. 

 

Couple of questions. 

 

What's the approx total budget between now and moving in? 

 

Where is south on the site? 

 

Are you proximate to any other houses or are there any nice views you'd like to take in? 

Budget has to be kept to an absolute minimum so trying to make the outlay as simple as possible and trying to make two bathrooms serve three bedrooms plus day visitors, the house is only for me and my wife and having occasional guests staying, the bedroom and snug are south facing, the plot size is 20 meters x 40 meters and I also need to incorporate a 9 meter x 7 meter workshop into the plot, I have neighbours either side and their plots are twice the size, planning have put a restriction on how far I can come forward with the house so this would only leave a 3 meter wide south facing back garden but we are appealing this, there is an existing wooden shack at front of plot which shall be taken down and we want to keep the new build behind it so we have 8 meters garden at back and 12 meters at front of house

[Iceverge]

Ok, I've reread your post a few times and had a quick go at what I think the layout is assuming a 20x8m footprint from your description. I assume that the main restriction is the 17m at the front of the house rather than the 3m at the rear? Presumably to keep the façade in line with the neighbours?  I've had a complete stab in the dark re the workshop area and haven't even tried place the wooden shack. 

 

 

How far from getting it right am I ? 

 

 

[Kevan Marshall]

47 minutes ago, Iceverge said:

Ok, I've reread your post a few times and had a quick go at what I think the layout is assuming a 20x8m footprint from your description. I assume that the main restriction is the 17m at the front of the house rather than the 3m at the rear? Presumably to keep the façade in line with the neighbours?  I've had a complete stab in the dark re the workshop area and haven't even tried place the wooden shack. 

 

 

How far from getting it right am I ? 

 

[Kevan Marshall]

Blue line is where outline off building shall be, the square at front of new house is outline of old shack, the planners want the new build to be in same line as next door but their garden is twice the size, the shack has been there since the 40’s and next door built there houses in the 80’s, it’s not my fault they put their houses further back and planning guidelines say that a house must not be brought forward from existing dwelling on my plot, problem is neighbours objected and mentioned privacy, one side has 7ft high wall, other side has 8ft high hedge, the side with hedge is double story and one small living room window looking onto ours and we are only building single story at this stage, the other neighbours are single story so no issues with privacy…

[Kevan Marshall]

1 hour ago, Iceverge said:

Ok, I've reread your post a few times and had a quick go at what I think the layout is assuming a 20x8m footprint from your description. I assume that the main restriction is the 17m at the front of the house rather than the 3m at the rear? Presumably to keep the façade in line with the neighbours?  I've had a complete stab in the dark re the workshop area and haven't even tried place the wooden shack. 

 

 

How far from getting it right am I ? 

 

 

Hi Iceverge,

Unfortunately the planners would never allow the garage to be built in front of the house and so close to the road!

[Iceverge]

 

 

I've got the wrong end of the stick so. Can you tell me clearly what way is north please. Label it on your diagram. Too many designers seem to forget all about the giant fireball in the sky , provider of all life on earth and it's effect on a building. 

 

 

 

 

[Iceverge]

In the meantime here's my attempt based on what I thought the layout was. 

 

 

 

3 bed and an office/snug. 

kitchen diner and lounge, 

utility and stairs included

1  family bath and one walk through dressing room and ensuite. 

I've made sure there's an external wall on all bathrooms. 

There's options for cross ventilation on all rooms bar the snug for cooling. 

 

The roof should be a straightforward enough affair, no dormers. Just 2 valleys. 

 

I've made the external walls a realistic 450mm wide and internals 150mm. Nothing is getting built in 2025 with skinny walls, they simply cannot deliver the required performance economically. 

[Kevan Marshall]

[Iceverge]

Ok, cool. I got something right at least, just need to figure out access to the workshop......

 

Any comments/questions on the layout? 

 

Are the dimension of the workshop rigid or is there any flexibility to adjust? 

 

[Kevan Marshall]

The workshop can be 10 x 6 mtrs or 9 x 7mtrs, about 3 metres to eaves and 22.5 degrees pitch, 3 sides and roof shall be 40mm insulated cladding and front shall be silicone renderer board with 3mtr x 3mtr sectional garage door facing road