Russell griffiths Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Has anybody noticed building materials being cheaper up north. I watched over Christmas HOMES UNDER THE HAMMER. and couldn’t believe some of the work carried out for tiny budgets, the one I watched had quite a nice loft converted and I couldn’t believe the small amount of money they said it had taken. Granted wages for tradesmen will be cheaper but are there any deals to be had from merchants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Stuff is certainly cheaper up North on sites like Gumtree. Generally the price I want to pay but not the distance I want to travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 A lot of HuTHers do their job win labour. They also tend to keep quiet about things like 3% stamp duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 I was thinking say. 3 whole packs of osb and 2 pallets of plasterboard. or what if you made it up to a whole truck load, could it be worth it if spending £5000 or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: A lot of HuTHers do their job win labour. They also tend to keep quiet about things like 3% stamp duty. I agree the program is a crock of s##t but after looking at the price of plywood in the merchants I wonder if prices are altered to suit house prices and wages. I know around my way they seem to have a price in the shops that gets adjusted for the horsey set and second home owners. 5 logs in a bag for £6.50 a small joint of pork in the butchers was £33 two days before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I must confess we have first taped and now streamed most of the homes under the hammer Some of the budgets are ridiculous Exspecially the ones that have dun a full renovation for under 6k The ones that we find the most realistic seem to be those that have 30 properties plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Also have to remember that many HUtH programmes are repeats - many as old as 5 years. Google pics of Martin to get an idea of when any specific programme was recorded Edited January 2, 2018 by Hecateh typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 2 January 2018 at 21:37, Hecateh said: Also have to remember that many HUtH programmes are repeats - many as old as 5 years. Google picks of Martin to get an idea of when any specific programme was recorded Good point We have noticed that same with Kirsty and Phil Tap on a wall None load baring Plaster for a day 100 Plumber 100 Sparks 100 500 quid job done Costs 220 for a skip Im guessing a bag of cement would cost the same were ever you are in the U.K. Wages around the sites in Manchester and Liverpool are around £170 per day More for price work Much more for bricklayers at the moment The problem we have on here is the best trades people are not readily absolve to us as self builders Most of the big company’s are guaranteeing a decent wage rain or shine We can not Most are paying double time or at least time and a half for weekend work Somthing else that we as selbuilders do not have the budget for One of my rental properties had what I thought was a small leak from the copper cylinder Turned out to be nackered £1400 for a replacement Cheaper to replace the seven year old boiler The two guys I use for repairs work cards in for a 24 repair company needed the boiler fitting asap Weekens they are paid double time I had to stump up £700 for a baxi compact and £1100 for two men all day Saturday half a day Sunday Not a bad hourly rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, nod said: One of my rental properties had what I thought was a small leak from the copper cylinder Turned out to be nackered £1400 for a replacement Cheaper to replace the seven year old boiler The two guys I use for repairs work cards in for a 24 repair company needed the boiler fitting asap Weekens they are paid double time I had to stump up £700 for a baxi compact and £1100 for two men all day Saturday half a day Sunday Not a bad hourly rate I had to do an emergency boiler replacement for a T in late November. Had to go through one of the online sites and quotes were between 1900 and 4850. The existing would be 350 in Ariston parts plus labour plus at least a two week delay - not acceptable in a cold snap without hot water, and a lot for a six year old boiler. That was for a Worcester Bosch, and also a few bits and pieces, and some jury rigging of control systems. There were some control issues with the ufh that had been there for some time of which I was not aware. Part of the reason I was starting to ask about ASHPs. F Edited January 2, 2018 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC45 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 If I was on national tv I'd lie about my costs - wouldnt you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: I was thinking say. 3 whole packs of osb and 2 pallets of plasterboard. or what if you made it up to a whole truck load, could it be worth it if spending £5000 or more. How much is a whole pack of OSB or plasterboard per sheet? Roughly. It may be someone has a good source. F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, CC45 said: If I was on national tv I'd lie about my costs - wouldnt you? Yep My friend built a five bed house last year for 137000 Not sure how Although he’s a bricklayer by trade he didn’t even build his own gate posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC45 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 137,000 - that seems v cheap - how much per m2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: How much is a whole pack of OSB or plasterboard per sheet? Roughly. It may be someone has a good source. F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, CC45 said: 137,000 - that seems v cheap - how much per m2? I’m not sure but it’s rediculously cheap He drove the dumper for to days abd made a few cups of tea As a site manager he has access to labour But they still need paying Ive spent £160000 so far to get to first fix With about £25000 of that being labour Materials as we all know are exspensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexphd1 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Labour is supply and demand depending on area unfortunately trades are pretty expensive around here! I would argue material is cheaper South than north (aberdeenshire), we don't have competition locally with build merchants. We pay extra for shipping north! Generally on ebay/gumtree more selection further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alexphd1 said: Labour is supply and demand depending on area unfortunately trades are pretty expensive around here! I would argue material is cheaper South than north (aberdeenshire), we don't have competition locally with build merchants. We pay extra for shipping north! Generally on ebay/gumtree more selection further south. I would agree with you there Many of the eBay sellers that offer free post are attaching post code that are perhaps more familiar to you than me With a caption call for postage details for these codes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 9 hours ago, nod said: Cheers. It is all very tactical, and depending on the material there are horses and courses. For a comparison this morning I can buy Knauf 12.5mm Wallboard, either square or tapered edge, for about £5.11 a sheet, delivered free if I order £300 for my bulky order. That is the indicated price minus normal bulk (6 for 5?), trade (10%), and gift card (another 10%) discounts from my local Wickes. http://www.wickes.co.uk/Products/Building-Materials/Plaster+Plasterboard/Plasterboard/c/1000220 That may not quite beat the price, but it may be more convenient. Others may well have better sources. There is quite a bit more on the Savings threads. For another eg, the Vapour Panel is £9.26, which is not quite as good. Unless you catch one of their 5% off trade specials, or 15% off but not trade days. Hope that helps. Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, Ferdinand said: Cheers. It is all very tactical, and depending on the material there are horses and courses. For a comparison this morning I can buy Knauf 12.5mm Wallboard, either square or tapered edge, for about £5.11 a sheet, delivered free if I order £300 for my bulky order. That is the indicated price minus normal bulk (6 for 5?), trade (10%), and gift card (another 10%) discounts from my local Wickes. http://www.wickes.co.uk/Products/Building-Materials/Plaster+Plasterboard/Plasterboard/c/1000220 That may not quite beat the price, but it may be more convenient. Others may well have better sources. There is quite a bit more on the Savings threads. For another eg, the Vapour Panel is £9.26, which is not quite as good. Unless you catch one of their 5% off trade specials, or 15% off but not trade days. Hope that helps. Ferdinand Yeah there won’t be a massive difference on wallboard But I can beat Wicjes hands down on moister sound fire boards at least a couple of quid per board The drywall adhesive is about 3 quid per bag more and it’s Nauf Very few contractors use it As it not as good as the real thing Also I’m guessing that Wickes would charge extra for 2.7 and 3000 boards But Wickes and bq will beat many of the builders merchants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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