WannabeBob Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Hey folks, me again! Our swimming pool foundation dig is going well so far. I was wondering if anyone can recommend any rebar suppliers that can do H10 (10mm) links/stirrups with a dimension of 90mm, ie shape code 51 where B=90mm Our engineers have specified 90mm max for our lintels and piers as they want a 30mm coverage each side within our 150mm ICF concrete due to fire regulations. The suppliers I’ve checked with say they can only do down to 100mm, some even only going down to 110mm. I did get a quote from someone that said they could do it, at 20% more expensive and of dubious repute? I say dubious but really it’s just that I haven’t seen them mentioned before, and hoping someone here might have personal recommendations instead. I’ve asked our engineers to come up with alternatives but I’m not very optimistic about them coming up with a timely solution… I’d rather get the bars supplied bent, but failing that how hard is it to bend my own bars for a pencil neck with absolutely no experience? 😅 Thanks!
BadgerBodger Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Bending is easy enough with a bar bender but by the time you’ve hired one and bought the bar you’re probably better paying the 20% premium on the few you want…. I’m not sure you’d get a bar bender to manage bends in that short succession though.
WannabeBob Posted April 17 Author Posted April 17 45 minutes ago, JohnMo said: I got mine from eBay. Maybe I’m being a bit uppity about it, but how do you know if the rebar meets the standards? 46 minutes ago, BadgerBodger said: I’m not sure you’d get a bar bender to manage bends in that short succession though. I’m assuming that’s why most suppliers can’t go down to 90mm either.
BadgerBodger Posted April 17 Posted April 17 32 minutes ago, WannabeBob said: Maybe I’m being a bit uppity about it, but how do you know if the rebar meets the standards? I’m assuming that’s why most suppliers can’t go down to 90mm either. Good question. And there is a lot to talk about here… I’ll keep it quick though. Ask for the suppliers CARES certificate. If it covers the relevant classes you’re looking for you’re good. I’m over generalising but for domestic work I wouldn’t dig much further than that. It’s a rabbit hole. On the bending sizes and radii, factory bent will give you the most options. On site you don’t really want to be making up complex bar bends! 1
Russell griffiths Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Total construction supplies in the west mids did mine, they didn’t like it as it was small and hard to bend, but did them as I had had £5000 worth of steel for my foundations, and they featured my foundations on their website. give them a call. could you drop to 8mm links, check with structural engineer, easier to bend to get the tight radius. 1
WannabeBob Posted April 17 Author Posted April 17 15 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Total construction supplies in the west mids did mine, they didn’t like it as it was small and hard to bend, but did them as I had had £5000 worth of steel for my foundations, and they featured my foundations on their website. give them a call. could you drop to 8mm links, check with structural engineer, easier to bend to get the tight radius. Thanks Russell! Yes we can drop to H8 as well, though with the ones I’ve checked with was still 100 or 110. 36 minutes ago, BadgerBodger said: On the bending sizes and radii, factory bent will give you the most options. On site you don’t really want to be making up complex bar bends! Yeah. We don’t have crazy amount and it’s pretty much straight bars or square links but I’d still rather avoid bending them on site if I can
Russell griffiths Posted April 17 Posted April 17 If you can go 8mm i would bend them on site, simple jig and a hand bender.
WannabeBob Posted April 17 Author Posted April 17 I might spend more time making a jig than bending bars!
WannabeBob Posted April 17 Author Posted April 17 Although for the price of a takeaway, this might by worth trying https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005983014134.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.1.17deBXtBBXtB3z&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=591a7a8e-a5b9-4053-b294-7087714f343d&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:591a7a8e-a5b9-4053-b294-7087714f343d,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238116%232002&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"43"%2C"eval"%3A"1"%2C"sceneId"%3A"30050"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!GBP!12.73!8.83!!!119.38!82.80!%402103891017449243290116801e4967!12000035171723357!rec!UK!!ABXZ&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller|query_from%3A
Chanmenie Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I had similar issue, ended up buying a rebar bender and making my own. It worked out quite a bit cheaper than buying ready made links even allowing for the bender
Chanmenie Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Got it from eBay, it’ll do up to 14mm bar ill sell it if your interested but I’m a few miles from Cambridgeshire as I’m near Norwich 1
Nickfromwales Posted April 18 Posted April 18 5 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: @Nickfromwales is a bit of a bender 🤣 £20 is £20 1
Nickfromwales Posted April 18 Posted April 18 9 hours ago, WannabeBob said: Which bender did you get? You'd both be lucky to have me....ffs
Gus Potter Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Shape code 51 is this Table 2 says this On 17/04/2025 at 18:18, WannabeBob said: H10 (10mm) links/stirrups with a dimension of 90mm, ie shape code 51 where B=90mm And there lies your problem. On 17/04/2025 at 18:18, WannabeBob said: H10 (10mm) links/stirrups with a dimension of 90mm, ie shape code 51 where B=90mm I suspect your SE has made a bollocks of this link / beam design. 10mm links with only B = 90 mm? even if in terms of buildability and cost.
WannabeBob Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 16 hours ago, Gus Potter said: I suspect your SE has made a bollocks of this link / beam design. 10mm links with only B = 90 mm? even if in terms of buildability and cost. Let’s just say I won’t be recommending them for many other reasons as well. We’re thinking of trying it out with a bending jig as a trial and see how feasible it is
WannabeBob Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 19 hours ago, Chanmenie said: Got it from eBay, it’ll do up to 14mm bar ill sell it if your interested but I’m a few miles from Cambridgeshire as I’m near Norwich Thanks. If you’re happy to sell it I’ll let you know on Tuesday if we decide to try it ourselves. 1
Chanmenie Posted April 20 Posted April 20 On 19/04/2025 at 15:45, WannabeBob said: Let’s just say I won’t be recommending them for many other reasons as well. We’re thinking of trying it out with a bending jig as a trial and see how feasible it is I made 200 links didn’t take too long once you get the hang of it. I have some bits of rebar kicking about you can try 1
WannabeBob Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 On 20/04/2025 at 19:18, Chanmenie said: I made 200 links didn’t take too long once you get the hang of it. I have some bits of rebar kicking about you can try Happy days, I’ve managed to find a supplier to do the links in 90mm without any extra costs. Thanks all for the help. I won’t be needing the jig after all. 1
Gus Potter Posted April 22 Posted April 22 41 minutes ago, WannabeBob said: Happy days, I’ve managed to find a supplier to do the links in 90mm without any extra costs. Good, just make sure that you can vibrate the concrete ok and get the pour sequencing right. Go back and just check the design with you SE, in case there is an annotation error.. it happens.
WannabeBob Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 38 minutes ago, Gus Potter said: Good, just make sure that you can vibrate the concrete ok and get the pour sequencing right. Go back and just check the design with you SE, in case there is an annotation error.. it happens. Thanks. Yes, we’ve checked the dimensions with them and according to our SE that’s the “standard detail” approved by the ICF manufacturer who’ll come on site to help with the first lift as well. 1
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