Nickfromwales Posted Monday at 12:02 Posted Monday at 12:02 2 minutes ago, Pocster said: Back it up Welsh Wizard with facts …. 🤨 They’re all single cell / partially closed, these ‘better’ ones, but are totally different animals to the foams from the sheds. Cheap stuff is like crumbly honeycomb when set, and you can scrape it out with your finger, but the 330 is insanely better and when cured goes a lot harder / stretchier, and has far fewer voids in it. Been using it for years on anything which needs airtight / cold / damp bridging to be resolved. Use it all around my windows when they were changed, and damp disappeared and hasn’t come back, much better. 1
Pocster Posted Monday at 12:05 Author Posted Monday at 12:05 Just now, Nickfromwales said: They’re all single cell / partially closed, these ‘better’ ones, but are totally different animals to the foams from the sheds. Cheap stuff is like crumbly honeycomb when set, and you can scrape it out with your finger, but the 330 is insanely better and when cured goes a lot harder / stretchier, and has far fewer voids in it. Been using it for years on anything which needs airtight / cold / damp bridging to be resolved. Use it all around my windows when they were changed, and damp disappeared and hasn’t come back, much better. Don’t doubt you . But the spec should say something . I did use a soudal one ( so not cheap brand shite ) . I did just 1 glazed unit - I’ll see how it goes ( as the foam is in ) - if I determine the leak is still over the upstands I.e foams doing jack ; I’ll remove the glass next summer scrape out the foam and redo with your suggested weapon of choice . 1
Thorfun Posted Monday at 13:58 Posted Monday at 13:58 1 hour ago, Pocster said: Don’t doubt you . But the spec should say something . I did use a soudal one ( so not cheap brand shite ) . I did just 1 glazed unit - I’ll see how it goes ( as the foam is in ) - if I determine the leak is still over the upstands I.e foams doing jack ; I’ll remove the glass next summer scrape out the foam and redo with your suggested weapon of choice . give the tech support department a call?
Pocster Posted Monday at 16:26 Author Posted Monday at 16:26 2 hours ago, Thorfun said: give the tech support department a call? I did . I posted on here 1
Onoff Posted Monday at 17:56 Posted Monday at 17:56 Illbrück FM330 skins up like rubber and really tough rubber at that. It's actually quite noticeable when you cut it compared to even Soudal products which were my previous goto.
SteamyTea Posted Tuesday at 11:49 Posted Tuesday at 11:49 17 hours ago, Onoff said: skins up like rubber Integral skin polyurethane foams do that. Used for making chair arm rests, and costing the steel hoop in car steering wheels. If you cut it open, you will find a 2 or 3mm thick skin. It is created by temperature difference between the injected liquids that react and foam, and the tooling temperature. With a bit of experimenting you can find the best temperature to heat the can up to get it to either skin on the contact surface or the air interface. Alternatively, and maybe easier, foam up with something strong enough, then coat the outside with non foaming PU. In effect, creating your own skin on outside. (Thinking while typing the above, paint the joint with non foaming PU, foam, then paint outside with non foaming)
Pocster Posted yesterday at 07:25 Author Posted yesterday at 07:25 (edited) 19 hours ago, SteamyTea said: Thinking while typing the above, paint the joint with non foaming PU, foam, then paint outside with non foaming) I can’t get to the outside of the foam Edited yesterday at 07:25 by Pocster
SteamyTea Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Pocster said: I can’t get to the outside of the foam Should have painted it before foaming.
Pocster Posted 22 hours ago Author Posted 22 hours ago 55 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Should have painted it before foaming. Paint what ? The underside of a glazing frame sat on an upstand ?
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