saveasteading Posted February 17 Posted February 17 I've always worried about this. There is a constant dribble into the pan, so the cistern simply needs adjusting or cleaning. But it is a concealed cistern with hardly any access. It is Roca so presumably they are made to be maintainable. We had this done about 10 years ago, but I wasn't much involved so trusted the professionals. I can't even see a maintenance valve in there. The lid comes off and I see a sturdy timber boxing, with a thin tank half covered by the stud. The flush plate must come off too. Any help please?
Big Jimbo Posted February 17 Posted February 17 You are supposed to be able to get to everything inside, by taking the front plate off......I have never fitted these because, "Not with my hands chum"
Big Jimbo Posted February 17 Posted February 17 The front plate usually pushes slightly to One side or the other in order to remove. Hope that helps. 1
Onoff Posted February 17 Posted February 17 33 minutes ago, saveasteading said: There is a constant dribble Comes with age that... 1 1
Pocster Posted February 17 Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, Onoff said: Comes with age that... Stains also 1
ProDave Posted February 17 Posted February 17 I serviced mine recently (completely different type) It was the little tiny rubber pad that part of the mechanism closes on to form a seal that had worn. Of course it was impossible to replace the little rubber pad, so I turned it over and re fitted. That of course just kicks the problem down the road until the other side of the little rubber pad wears out then I need to try harder to find one. 1
Onoff Posted February 17 Posted February 17 3 minutes ago, ProDave said: I serviced mine recently (completely different type) It was the little tiny rubber pad that part of the mechanism closes on to form a seal that had worn. Of course it was impossible to replace the little rubber pad, so I turned it over and re fitted. That of course just kicks the problem down the road until the other side of the little rubber pad wears out then I need to try harder to find one. Measure it and I'll 3D print one in TPU if you like.
saveasteading Posted February 17 Author Posted February 17 Thanks all. Just knowing how to take the cover off is hugely important. I've managed to turn off the water, with a short screwdriver tied to a long string, so I didnt drop it to oblivion. Can't do more for a while but I will report back when I've had a chance to open up.
ToughButterCup Posted February 18 Posted February 18 14 hours ago, ProDave said: ... It was the little tiny rubber pad that part of the mechanism closes on to form a seal that had worn. ... Thanks Dave. I'll look for that on our system (Geberit). The so called flush buttons are in fact levers, and so wear out as expected from a lever .... and they charged us £76 for the privilege of buying shite...
TerryE Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I know that the Geberits are designed to be fully maintainable through the panel opening that is accessible behind the flush plate, though it is a bit like open heart surgery. Small nimble hands help, so in our case this will be a job for Jan. 1
saveasteading Posted February 18 Author Posted February 18 A lesson for future builds...the wc in question shown has a slab cover that lifts out, revealing a stop-cock just in reach but tricky to reach with a screwdriver. Our other units do nof have removable tops...i wonder where the plumber put the stopcocks? I fear they are unreachable. The video has it reachable through the front opening, and it is hand operated..this should be the standard.
AartWessels Posted February 19 Posted February 19 8 hours ago, saveasteading said: A lesson for future builds...the wc in question shown has a slab cover that lifts out, revealing a stop-cock just in reach but tricky to reach with a screwdriver. Our other units do nof have removable tops...i wonder where the plumber put the stopcocks? I fear they are unreachable. The video has it reachable through the front opening, and it is hand operated..this should be the standard. That IS standard. Still surprised to see how few of these seem to be fitted here in the UK, whereas in Belgium and NL you'll have to search hard to find newer houses without them. All maintenance should be possible through the front opening. If it isn't your installer will have to do all the maintenance by himself I guess 😁🤭
Big Jimbo Posted February 19 Posted February 19 I know these look smart, and have been around for years. However, I have never fitted them for myself. I wouldn't call it open heart surgery, more like keyhole surgery. I'm not going to start fitting them anytime soon. They are a pain in the butt IMO. Best of luck with it. They are not fit for purpose with my size hands.
saveasteading Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 Yes I may be being unfair to the plumber. Perhaps I will find another stopcock inside the keyhole. Does one come with the kit? Is there a reason the video man doesn't remove the tubes to get the outer plate out of the way?
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