Dee Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) Hi I've painted MDF kitchen cabinet doors that I've made but didn't realise they should be sealed prior! Ive painted using Farrow and ball eggshell and a basic undercoat. 12hrs later its still tacky. Can I seal retrospectively? Any advice?? Edited August 18, 2023 by Dee Additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Dee said: Farrow and ball eggshell and a basic undercoat Are the two compatible? I painted a door with a water based gloss, there are patches where it has reacted and stayed soft where the previous gloss/undercoat was not fully removed back to the timber. Even 'same base' undercoat and glosses and react. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Dee said: Can I seal retrospectively? No. The sealer is specifically a bonding barrier between the mdf and the finish paint. Pointless adding it now. Either remove your paint and start again with sealer, or see if it happens to be OK by luck. But it's likely to change appearance or flake off in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I suspect it might just be taking a long time to dry. High humidity? Was it stirred properly? I'd give it 24-48 hours before deciding its not drying. Perhaps paint up some scrap wood with a primer (Zinsser products are good) and then the F&B. See how that turns out. If you have issues with the F&B I've had success with Rust-oleum over Zinsser on mdf. You can get small samples on Amazon. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0BJ2Q1V6K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09NW4ZG4K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Some people report drying issues with F&B. Scroll down here to the comments.. https://fromevijawithlove.com/2018/04/23/things-you-need-to-know-before-painting-with-farrow-ball/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jimbo Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I have a friend who is a Colourist. (fancy name for a painter if you ask me) Works all over the world for the obscenely rich and famous. He won't use F and B paint for anything. I've just tried to ring him to ask him about yours, but just got a funny foreign ring tone, followed by being cut off. I would defo give it at least a good few days to see if it dries, and hardens off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Jimbo said: I would defo give it at least a good few days to see if it dries, and hardens off. I did that, then had to go to the clinic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Walker Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Big Jimbo said: I have a friend who is a Colourist. (fancy name for a painter if you ask me) Works all over the world for the obscenely rich and famous. He won't use F and B paint for anything. I've just tried to ring him to ask him about yours, but just got a funny foreign ring tone, followed by being cut off. I would defo give it at least a good few days to see if it dries, and hardens off. I totally agree with your colourist, F&B can be a nightmare on wood, esp MDF. There are much better paints IMHO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 Fair enough! Must admit I'm a huge fan of FB on wall/ emulsion, used it fo years but I won't be using eggshell again....its awful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 In the end I put the doors in the sun which helped to dry out more. Tge next day they were pretty dry, sanded down with 120 grit and just applied a second top coat. Will now wait 24hours before final coat....absolute pain and an email on its way to FB with feedback!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 Finished cupboard. Fairly happy with it but made soooo many mistakes, learned alot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jimbo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Well done. Looks great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 19/08/2023 at 09:04, Dee said: Fair enough! Must admit I'm a huge fan of FB on wall/ emulsion, used it fo years but I won't be using eggshell again....its awful! We use their colour charts and then get it colour matched into crown paint, my work painter won’t use farrow and ball but all the designers like to use it, no one is any the wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Dee said: learned alot though Please tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 Dont over think...... Accept that as a DIYer with basic tools it'll not be perfect. Measure, measure and measure again. Be patient! Don't use Farrow an Ball Eggshell paint!! Seal the MDF....I forgot to. Don't use 6mm stripwood, too unstable, it warps and cups. Use 9mm mdf for the panel and 6mm for the rails ect to make 22mm'ish thick doors. Ideally have the rails ect machined if you don't have the capacity. Get an accurate level! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 Oh, and sand and seal the edges to within an inch of their lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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