Driveaway ideas/advice

[CloGanga]

 I hope I will find a good advice and ideas for DIY or contractor  

I need ideas for my large  driveway (front ) and small patio (back). I love Tarmac but it costs a lot, £18000 ( front ) and £5000 ( back ). A friend told me to use gravel but I did not like it because they move alot when you walk on it. 

Any ideas? with a cheaper cost.   see pictures.

[Temp]

See..

 

Https://www.Pavingexpert.com

There index is here..

https://www.pavingexpert.com/pavindex

 

Has loads of information and specifications you can give trades to work to.

 

Whatever you choose the absolute must is to get the sub base done right. Anyone can lay tarmac or blocks but if the sub base isn't don right it wont last and will break up and sink.

 

These days you need planning permission for anything that's not permeable (eg standard Tarmac) unless you use linear drains etc to stop water running off site.

[CloGanga]

Thank you. I will look it.

[Adsibob]

@CloGanga, you also need a good family therapist or, worst case scenario, a good divorce lawyer.

 

(Read my driveway story if you are confused.)

 

 But more seriously, given your driveway will be flat I don’t see an issue with gravel. If you go for the larger size stones (14mm to 20mm) they will be heavy enough that they shouldn’t move around much.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Adsibob

[joe90]

19 minutes ago, Adsibob said:

given your driveway will be flat I don’t see an issue with gravel.

I agree, my drive is gravel and as long as I don’t do wheelies it stays put, it will take time to settle and you need a good sub base. Mine is round stones which move more than angular ones do but I still don’t find it a problem 👍.

[Dave Jones]

how many m2 ?

[twice round the block]

Crushed cotswold stone. ie. gold dust.

Used for roads and parking areas by the National Trust at stately home's  etc.

MOT Type 1 below, gold dust on top compacted with a vibrating roller.

[Dave Jones]

7 minutes ago, twice round the block said:

Crushed cotswold stone. ie. gold dust.

Used for roads and parking areas by the National Trust at stately home's  etc.

MOT Type 1 below, gold dust on top compacted with a vibrating roller.

 

the mrs wont thank you when its wet. makes a terrible mess.

[Susie]

5 hours ago, Temp said:

See..

 

Https://www.Pavingexpert.com

There index is here..

https://www.pavingexpert.com/pavindex

 

Has loads of information and specifications you can give trades to work to.

 

 

Thanks for this link to great site I have bookmarked for a few jobs. 
 

[Conor]

We've 25mm quarry stone down as a temporary measure. It's doesn't move. At £250 a lorry load, can't do it cheaper. We might put a decorative layer over the top at some point, but it's fine.

[Temp]

3 hours ago, Conor said:

We've 25mm quarry stone down as a temporary measure. It's doesn't move. At £250 a lorry load, can't do it cheaper. We might put a decorative layer over the top at some point, but it's fine.

 

We put gravel over stone and the bigger stones migrates up through it. 

[Marvin]

38 minutes ago, Temp said:

 

We put gravel over stone and the bigger stones migrates up through it. 

Or is it the gravel migrates down?  @SteamyTea?

[Marvin]

Hi @CloGanga

 

I would be considering how the surface would drain. Standing water below the finished surface can undermine the ground strength

[SteamyTea]

1 hour ago, Marvin said:

Or is it the gravel migrates down?  @SteamyTea?

Gravel goes downwards.

Why you get dust at the bottom of the cornflake packet.

 

Charles Darwin did studies about rocks in soil.

[joe90]

You will need a compacted sub base to stop gravel migrating into the soil, if your soil is compacted enough then a membrane is required to stop stones disappearing into the soil. yes the dust and smallest particles will settle to the bottom leaving the larger, cleaner stones on the top.

Edited July 15, 2023 by joe90

[Marvin]

Good to use geotextile on the formation before the Type 1. This also helps to resist the fines in the soil below rising through the  type 1.

[CloGanga]

Dave Jones, 

Total area 260 m2

[Adsibob]

13 hours ago, CloGanga said:

Dave Jones, 

Total area 260 m2

20 to 25 tonnes of 15mm to 20mm gravel should cover that. That’s a lot of gravel.