CloGanga Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I hope I will find a good advice and ideas for DIY or contractor I need ideas for my large driveway (front ) and small patio (back). I love Tarmac but it costs a lot, £18000 ( front ) and £5000 ( back ). A friend told me to use gravel but I did not like it because they move alot when you walk on it. Any ideas? with a cheaper cost. see pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 See.. Https://www.Pavingexpert.com There index is here.. https://www.pavingexpert.com/pavindex Has loads of information and specifications you can give trades to work to. Whatever you choose the absolute must is to get the sub base done right. Anyone can lay tarmac or blocks but if the sub base isn't don right it wont last and will break up and sink. These days you need planning permission for anything that's not permeable (eg standard Tarmac) unless you use linear drains etc to stop water running off site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloGanga Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 Thank you. I will look it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) @CloGanga, you also need a good family therapist or, worst case scenario, a good divorce lawyer. (Read my driveway story if you are confused.) But more seriously, given your driveway will be flat I don’t see an issue with gravel. If you go for the larger size stones (14mm to 20mm) they will be heavy enough that they shouldn’t move around much. Edited July 14, 2023 by Adsibob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, Adsibob said: given your driveway will be flat I don’t see an issue with gravel. I agree, my drive is gravel and as long as I don’t do wheelies it stays put, it will take time to settle and you need a good sub base. Mine is round stones which move more than angular ones do but I still don’t find it a problem 👍. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 how many m2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twice round the block Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Crushed cotswold stone. ie. gold dust. Used for roads and parking areas by the National Trust at stately home's etc. MOT Type 1 below, gold dust on top compacted with a vibrating roller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, twice round the block said: Crushed cotswold stone. ie. gold dust. Used for roads and parking areas by the National Trust at stately home's etc. MOT Type 1 below, gold dust on top compacted with a vibrating roller. the mrs wont thank you when its wet. makes a terrible mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Temp said: See.. Https://www.Pavingexpert.com There index is here.. https://www.pavingexpert.com/pavindex Has loads of information and specifications you can give trades to work to. Thanks for this link to great site I have bookmarked for a few jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 We've 25mm quarry stone down as a temporary measure. It's doesn't move. At £250 a lorry load, can't do it cheaper. We might put a decorative layer over the top at some point, but it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Conor said: We've 25mm quarry stone down as a temporary measure. It's doesn't move. At £250 a lorry load, can't do it cheaper. We might put a decorative layer over the top at some point, but it's fine. We put gravel over stone and the bigger stones migrates up through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, Temp said: We put gravel over stone and the bigger stones migrates up through it. Or is it the gravel migrates down? @SteamyTea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Hi @CloGanga I would be considering how the surface would drain. Standing water below the finished surface can undermine the ground strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Marvin said: Or is it the gravel migrates down? @SteamyTea? Gravel goes downwards. Why you get dust at the bottom of the cornflake packet. Charles Darwin did studies about rocks in soil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) You will need a compacted sub base to stop gravel migrating into the soil, if your soil is compacted enough then a membrane is required to stop stones disappearing into the soil. yes the dust and smallest particles will settle to the bottom leaving the larger, cleaner stones on the top. Edited July 15, 2023 by joe90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Good to use geotextile on the formation before the Type 1. This also helps to resist the fines in the soil below rising through the type 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloGanga Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 Dave Jones, Total area 260 m2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 13 hours ago, CloGanga said: Dave Jones, Total area 260 m2 20 to 25 tonnes of 15mm to 20mm gravel should cover that. That’s a lot of gravel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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