Pocster Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Done plenty of studwork and never worried about a bit of drift . I’m now doing a long wall ( 14m ) I notice once I’ve boarded typically a bow on some boards . Studs must be out or warped I assume . Worst case is around 10mm in the centre . Is this acceptable drift ? . Once skimmed and painted will it be even noticeable?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy_wafer Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Sorry I don't know, but I would be interested to find out what is acceptable for a spread to take out, because I'll be bloomin surprised if I manage to get all my boards up without a deviation, even though I've been running string lines and straight edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, crispy_wafer said: Sorry I don't know, but I would be interested to find out what is acceptable for a spread to take out, because I'll be bloomin surprised if I manage to get all my boards up without a deviation, even though I've been running string lines and straight edges. Yeah . As “ worry “ takes over that particular board I took down and managed to get the stud in an additional 5mm or so . It still ‘ bends ‘ but less noticeable. It’s when you stick a straight edge across the face - like a long spirit level you see the wobbles across multiple boards ! . From my experience of plasters . I did a bathroom ceiling and it was super (expletive deleted) level ; laser proved it . Got it skimmed ; looked great . Put up some straight beading - at either end touching the ceiling - in the middle maybe 10mm out . Plasters are indeed only human and judge by eye . Edited February 17, 2023 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 You should have put the level across the studs before you put the board up. Good god man, I thought you were improving 🤦🏻♂️ Take the board down and pack the dodgy studs, or plane face of proud one. You probably won’t see it much if you squint a bit, but think of when you put skirting on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy_wafer Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I had one stud, it decided it preferred to smile rather stay straight faced. took my circular saw to it 2/3 the way through at the bend, leant on it then wedged in a timber packer, then braced either side with ply. Perfik now, but required extra work. That's why metal frame is now taking over, nobody on site has time for remedial action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 You can use bonding to bring it out. Applied like skim but it's not as fine as skim so could get a few mm extra where it's bad. Or take the plaster board off and pack it out to make it straight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 The plasterer isn't going to try and sort it out. If you can live with the discrepancy then fine, otherwise you have to fix it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: You should have put the level across the studs before you put the board up. Good god man, I thought you were improving 🤦🏻♂️ Take the board down and pack the dodgy studs, or plane face of proud one. You probably won’t see it much if you squint a bit, but think of when you put skirting on. Redone now . It was level at the bottom I.e skirting . This one drifted out only at the top - so probably put a level across the middle where it’s ok .m; didn’t notice until board up Edited February 17, 2023 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Good god man, I thought you were improving 🤦🏻♂️ Which planet you on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Took off the last stud I did yesterday as correcting the other one seemed to suggest an issue with this one . Cant tell in the photo but a bit of crap has fallen down behind the membrane right at the top . Hit the membrane ; shatters crap - stud now tight to the wall ( not rude ) . Must remember to check membrane by feel for lumps Edited February 17, 2023 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 @Russell griffiths as you showed faith in my skills improvement here’s a photo of the other wall done last week . ‘Drift ‘ across board faces around 2mm or so …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Absolute bloody legend. Always put a straight edge at floor level for skirting, and ceiling level, these are the two areas it will show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: Good god man, I knew you were improving Admin ; can we make this a sticky ? . Perhaps on the main login page ; big flashing font at the top of the screen I think . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 5 hours ago, crispy_wafer said: That's why metal frame is now taking over As it has supposedly been doing for 20 years, but hasn't. Metal stud for big open plan work, timber for the fiddly or small scale stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, saveasteading said: As it has supposedly been doing for 20 years, but hasn't. Metal stud for big open plan work, timber for the fiddly or small scale stuff. I’ve got some metal stud in the utility room as that was done first and was subject to water getting in . It’s ok to install - being straight is good . Not sure I prefer it over timber though . I found the metal rivets a real pita to ‘bite’ - but that’s probably me rather than a failing of the material. I *think* timber is still cheaper …. ???! Edited February 17, 2023 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 6 hours ago, pocster said: *think* timber is still cheaper Yes. And offcuts get used as noggins, or go in the woodburner. If you need to extend or brace, then another bit of wood. And there is more at the BM if you are short, and travels well if surplus. I do like metal stud in the right situation...usually subdivisions of a commercial building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Potter Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 14 hours ago, pocster said: Is this acceptable drift ? . Yes if a load bearing wall. Even if it was load bearing then the odd stud 10.0mm out of alignment can be often sorted SE calculation wise...takes a lot of effort to prove but often it is not a show stopper.. unless we are in dispute with say the NHBC in which case all that gets cast up.. as follows For all.. A bit OT fun.. but if that stud was on an extenal wall and we were having a chat with say the NHBC we ask.. hey we know the stud is fine for axial load (downwards load) but it's bowing in or out.. if out we want to inspect the cavity width cavity to se if it is below 50mm.. if out we want to check that the wall ties have sufficient embedment.. if we find we have a non complince then we have a structural safety issue and now we are pushing at an open door to win claims against warranty providers. Otherwise just finish the wall..put the furniture in. Hang a picture.. if you can see the bow after that report back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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