Barn style design

[Amateur bob]

Hello, after failed planning applications on a previous design the planners have said they want a "barn style" design as it is on a farm, could anyone point me in the direction of some barn designs? it prefer to be clad in stone, are these types of design more expensive than a standard house design?

 

thanks

[Kelvin]

Look at Longhouses. Barns are simple rectangles so very straightforward designs. 

[saveasteading]

Rectangles are the simplest and cheapest buildings. Sloped roofs are also easy and cheaper. 

Metal roof. Walls in whatever is the local style. Stone could be tricky....what is your local stone?

Start with that and add features such as picture windows (like cart doors) to your own liking. Then sell your design to them referring to all the barnlike features.

I suggest a drive looking at old barns and new,  rural buildings, and get ideas in the local style.

[Papillon]

Barn style isn’t more expensive, no. Stone is more expensive than brick obviously. You could mix.

 

When I do a barn, I concentrate on the detailing.

Open eves, half hipped roof, stone on the main with a cladding extension, a nice feature brick pattern to break up the elevation. 
 

Barn windows are usually one big one (that used to be the barn door), big vaulted spaces, maybe a fireplace with some feature beams. I love an open gallery so you can really appreciate your space.

 

I probably could not give you an example without knowing your area’s style and site shape.

[ETC]

Can you post your original design, the comments your planners made and a rough location.

[saveasteading]

im in central Scotland, rural area, the house is quite visible from the main road which was an issue in the previous application which was 2 storey and all white render, with lowering ridge height in this design and some stone cladding i was hoping to reduce the visual impact.

 

Bad luck not getting to use the ubiquitous white.  But this gives you more scope for individuality. 

i just googled barn conversions central Scotland.. plenty ideas there.

[Bozza]

A few agricultural  / rural / barn ideas for you.  I take it you didn’t consult with them prior to application?  
 

what you need to do is look at your local agricultural architecture and take a steer from that.  Roof pitches, heights, elevations, materials, etc.  so your house will fit in. The good news is that original agricultural buildings are built for a purpose and generally at minimum cost.    This could benefit your budget of course unless you want to make it oak framed et al.  Many members here have some beautiful rural homes that use industrial steel sheets for example.  
 

Being made to build a barn style home is a very nice problem to have though.  

 

 

 

 

https://www.cookswood.com/executive-barn
 

 

https://www.cookswood.com/the-barn

 

https://www.dan-wood.co.uk/en/projects/point-158a-e

 

https://www.akenyondevelopments.com

 

 

https://cairnrowancustomhomes.com/projects/

 

[Buzz]

17 hours ago, Amateur bob said:

could anyone point me in the direction of some barn designs

Here is one that we had done. Sketch Scheme.pdf

[ETC]

Is this built?

[Buzz]

28 minutes ago, ETC said:

Is this built?

No ,one of the early sketches that was rejected .   

[Amateur bob]

1 hour ago, Buzz said:

Here is one that we had done. Sketch Scheme.pdf

what sort of price range would it be to build this?

 

thanks

[Amateur bob]

13 hours ago, Bozza said:

A few agricultural  / rural / barn ideas for you.  I take it you didn’t consult with them prior to application?  
 

what you need to do is look at your local agricultural architecture and take a steer from that.  Roof pitches, heights, elevations, materials, etc.  so your house will fit in. The good news is that original agricultural buildings are built for a purpose and generally at minimum cost.    This could benefit your budget of course unless you want to make it oak framed et al.  Many members here have some beautiful rural homes that use industrial steel sheets for example.  
 

Being made to build a barn style home is a very nice problem to have though.  

 

thanks some good examples there, im central scotland, i wonder if making it steel framed could make the build cheaper

 

 

https://www.cookswood.com/executive-barn
 

 

https://www.cookswood.com/the-barn

 

https://www.dan-wood.co.uk/en/projects/point-158a-e

 

https://www.akenyondevelopments.com

 

 

https://cairnrowancustomhomes.com/projects/

 

 

[Amateur bob]

17 hours ago, Papillon said:

Barn style isn’t more expensive, no. Stone is more expensive than brick obviously. You could mix.

 

When I do a barn, I concentrate on the detailing.

Open eves, half hipped roof, stone on the main with a cladding extension, a nice feature brick pattern to break up the elevation. 
 

Barn windows are usually one big one (that used to be the barn door), big vaulted spaces, maybe a fireplace with some feature beams. I love an open gallery so you can really appreciate your space.

 

I probably could not give you an example without knowing your area’s style and site shape.

im central scotland lot of the old farm buildings round here are rectangular shape, sandstone with tin roofs

[Amateur bob]

18 hours ago, saveasteading said:

Rectangles are the simplest and cheapest buildings. Sloped roofs are also easy and cheaper. 

Metal roof. Walls in whatever is the local style. Stone could be tricky....what is your local stone?

Start with that and add features such as picture windows (like cart doors) to your own liking. Then sell your design to them referring to all the barnlike features.

I suggest a drive looking at old barns and new,  rural buildings, and get ideas in the local style.

is a metal roof cost effective? its sandstone rectangular shaped buildings in this area, central scotland

[Buzz]

12 minutes ago, Amateur bob said:

what sort of price range would it be to build this?

Far to many variables to even ball park a cost , i have no idea on the price of metal roofs, sandstone cladding or the ground you will be building on .  then there is how will you chose to build, architect design and build ? architect design through to planning then appoint your own main contractor to complete the whole build ? project manage it yourself stage by stage trade by trade and diy what you can and or have time for ? 

[Kelvin]

Metal roofs are relatively cost effective depending on type. Zinc is dear but coated steel isn’t too bad. 

[DevilDamo]

A barn to accommodate what… a house?

[Kelvin]

His opening post refers to a house design so that’s a reasonable assumption…

[DevilDamo]

3 minutes ago, Kelvin said:

His opening post refers to a house design so that’s a reasonable assumption…

Yep, that may be the one 🤪 I initially read and interpreted that as in the construction, not the design. You can finish and clad a building to look however you want.

[saveasteading]

Coated steel is a much cheaper roof than most others. 

Sandstone is good news too, as it can be made into a thin skin to fix as if brickwork. Quite a skill though. Unless planning to do it yourself, it would be worth taliking now to a local mason before committing to a design. They can advise on availability, cost and  any pitfalls to avoid.

You are in the fortunate position of controlling the design before the planning app.

[ETC]

1 hour ago, Buzz said:

No ,one of the early sketches that was rejected .   

And do you have a sketch of your final design?

[Papillon]

Were the planners ok with the height and footprint of the last one, would you just like a makeover on :

 

 

[Amateur bob]

2 hours ago, saveasteading said:

Coated steel is a much cheaper roof than most others. 

Sandstone is good news too, as it can be made into a thin skin to fix as if brickwork. Quite a skill though. Unless planning to do it yourself, it would be worth taliking now to a local mason before committing to a design. They can advise on availability, cost and  any pitfalls to avoid.

You are in the fortunate position of controlling the design before the planning app.

interesting, why arent others using steel for roofs then? any drawbacks to it?

 

thanks

[Amateur bob]

2 minutes ago, Papillon said:

Were the planners ok with the height and footprint of the last one, would you just like a makeover on :

 

 

no they werent impressed with the size, or cladding i may have to go 1 1/2 storey

[saveasteading]

3 minutes ago, Amateur bob said:

why arent others using steel for roofs then

Many are. We have used it on our replacement section, and very pleased with how it looks.

Some architects will prefer zinc or secret fix aluminum, but it isn't their money.

Some prefer the corrugated look, but that seems unnecessarily rustic in most cases.