nod Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Has anyone had this condition attached Are planners wanting us to point lights downward Or low level lights Or is it one of those things that won’t get mentioned again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumpus Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 We have a similar condition, building in an AONB. We discharged it by submitting details of the light fittings to be used, and yes, all pointed downwards. I think they also look for nothing too dazzling. We also had a condition to have them on a sensor (but interesting there is no comment on how long the timer can be) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) What protected species do you have? Bats... https://www.bats.org.uk/our-work/buildings-planning-and-development/lighting They have a guide here... https://cdn.bats.org.uk/uploads/pdf/Resources/EUROBATSguidelines8_lightpollution.pdf?v=1542109376 https://theilp.org.uk/publication/guidance-note-9-domestic-exterior-lighting-getting-it-right/ which makes the design process look horrendous but if you skip over that the message is to fit lights as low as possible so you only illuminate the areas really necessary and use warm white LED Ideally <2700k. Edited December 26, 2022 by Temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trw144 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 I have this condition... a) At no time shall any external lighting except in relation to safe use of the approved or existing buildings be installed or operated in association with the approved development and no permanently illuminated external lighting shall be operated at any time, without the written approval of this local planning authority. b) No external lighting should illuminate any biodiversity enhancement, boundary feature, highway corridors or adjacent habitats. All lighting installed shall demonstrate compliance with latest best practice guidance relating to lighting and protected species-wildlife available from the Institution of Advanced Lighting. Haven't thought far enough ahead on lighting (other than I actually wanted lots of outdoor lighting) - guess I just need a good reason for it to be there for "safety" reasons so I can walk around my house/garden at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Sometimes, having a decision taken away is a good thing. One less thing to think about and pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 14 hours ago, Trw144 said: Haven't thought far enough ahead on lighting (other than I actually wanted lots of outdoor lighting) - guess I just need a good reason for it to be there for "safety" reasons so I can walk around my house/garden at night. Having a few local PIR's will allow the lights to come on as you walk towards, and stay illuminated for x mins after you've walked onwards / away. Simples. I do this within my normal lighting designs, and it's relatively cheap and simple to achieve with a bit of thought / planning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furnace Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 My recently granted permission has this more onerous condition imposed: The requirement for a contour plan is a bit of a drag, but I cobbled together something using an excellent free piece of software called Dialux (www.dialux.com). I only generated the contours for the 4 external lights proposed and mitigated the light spill from internal lights by stating I will have curtains and blinds on all windows. I'll post back when I know if the LPA accept my DIY approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 We just have some low level wall lights around the house mostly where there are steps and the patio. Quite like them as the give a certain "atmospheric feel". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ambrose Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Suggest you use the phrase 'consistent with safe access' liberally. Just noticed this text from someone's lighting statement fyi: "XXXX have completed lighting calculation to provide adequate emergency escape lighting from the building to comply with BS 5266. Wall lights mounted on the external walls of the building and above exit doors will provide emergency illumination along the escape routes. Their drawing below incorporates lighting level (Lux) isolines along with design standards and luminaire technical performance data. Two post top LED lanterns are proposed to provide adequate lighting for the car park, the exact position of these lights will be determined after trial holes are dug to confirm existing tree root positions but they have been shown indicatively on the plan below. All chosen luminaires will have a ULR (Upward lighting ratio) of 0% and will be ‘dark sky compliant’." A bunch of buzzwords there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furnace Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 21 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said: All chosen luminaires will have a ULR (Upward lighting ratio) of 0% and will be ‘dark sky compliant’. I've put that in my submission. Sounds more pro than 'downlighters' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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