SteamyTea Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mike_scotland said: builder changed it out himself without even consulting us Then he is responsible. Get him to sort it, one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_scotland Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, SteamyTea said: Then he is responsible. Get him to sort it, one way or another. Yeah, im going down the neighbor route first and if there having none of it then it falls back with the builder, im paying nothing towards this lol, i asked him about it last week and he says its a blockage further up the line backfilling into the chamber and now leaking out the top, the neighbor does have alot of trees and shrubbery along his boundary the same boundary the pipe runs along so its sort of inevitable its going to be blocked some how with roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, MikeSharp01 said: If the pipe is the property of the sewage company does that mean no easements are needed? Would not all the properties without connection running into the public highway sewer not need easements across all the properties. SO the left most property above will need 4 easements, the next 3 and so on? Indeed. I suspect this is one reason the government changed the rules in Engkand to make shared drains the responsibility of the water co. Prior to that I'm sure lot of people had issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_scotland Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Temp said: Indeed. I suspect this is one reason the government changed the rules in Engkand to make shared drains the responsibility of the water co. Prior to that I'm sure lot of people had issues. i stay in the middle of no where, well about 10 miles from nearest city, there is only 5 houses about here so no mains sewage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, MikeSharp01 said: Have you a link for your image - my neighbor has a similar issue, as @Mike_scotland, which by the looks of that diagram they don't if you get my drift. Most water companies and ofwat have something similar on their websites now. The diagram I posted is several diagrams down this first one.. https://www.ofwat.gov.uk/nonhouseholds/supply-and-standards/responsibility-supply-pipes/ https://www.stwater.co.uk/my-supply/waste-water/looking-after-your-sewers/sewer-pipe-responsibility/ Edited May 10, 2022 by Temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mike_scotland said: i stay in the middle of no where, well about 10 miles from nearest city, there is only 5 houses about here so no mains sewage Village near us was on a combination of private and communal tanks until a few years back Then I think the government or water co had some kind of "first connection" service running. This involved building a small treatment (collection?) plant on the outskirts and hooking everyone up to that instead. Not sure how many houses a village must have before it could get on such a scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_scotland Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Temp said: Village near us was on a combination of private and communal tanks until a few years back Then I think the government or water co had some kind of "first connection" service running. This involved building a small treatment (collection?) plant on the outskirts and hooking everyone up to that instead. Not sure how many houses a village must have before it could get on such a scheme. I dont actually know where the neighboring pipework goes, i just know i wasnt aloud to pipe into it and i have to get a sewage treatment plant and soakway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_scotland Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 so i vaguely remembered a objection when we originally looked at the planning permission and here it is!! the pipework has previous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Mike_scotland said: i stay in the middle of no where, well about 10 miles from nearest city, there is only 5 houses about here so no mains sewage Which makes me ask the unanswered question again. Is this raw sewage leading to a communal treatment plant? Or treated effluent from multiple individual treatment units going toa communal soakaway or into a watercourse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_scotland Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, ProDave said: Which makes me ask the unanswered question again. Is this raw sewage leading to a communal treatment plant? Or treated effluent from multiple individual treatment units going toa communal soakaway or into a watercourse? no idea Dave. im not connecting to it. i assume its a soakway further down the road as the land here was pretty pish for water soaking away hence why i needed a soakway mound thing. so my best guess would be the septic tanks from all the houses around me (not mine though) all somehow are into this pipework line and go down the road somewhere into either a burn or maybe just the land as a soakway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Mike_scotland said: so i vaguely remembered a objection when we originally looked at the planning permission and here it is!! the pipework has previous! So it's the outlet from their septic tanks and may go to a soakaway, or leech field. Given what they say they are probably going to blame you. I don't suppose you still have a digger available. Would be tempting to get a working party together to fix it properly for the brownie points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_scotland Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Temp said: So it's the outlet from their septic tanks and may go to a soakaway, or leech field. Given what they say they are probably going to blame you. I don't suppose you still have a digger available. Would be tempting to get a working party together to fix it properly for the brownie points. itll go for miles i assume m8, and even then its through some pretty rough looking trees etc, we have replaced our part so i dont see how we are responsible, i had a look back and the planning conditions were we to concreted it in on the driveway which we did and the builder just went and replaced the lot as he was saying its easier as the line was pretty old and knackered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerahill Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Mike_scotland said: my builder changed it out himself without even consulting us, we were told we had to replace and concrete the driveway in anyway so he just done the lot and put in a inspection chamber. it cant be us who have damaged it if its brand new pipework and our part isnt blocked, its further down, well wait for the neighbors response anyway. Would the IC let you rod down the line then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_scotland Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Carrerahill said: Would the IC let you rod down the line then? What is IC sorry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Mike_scotland said: What is IC sorry? Inspection chamber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_scotland Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: Inspection chamber Sorry yes it would i would think the inspection chamber is right on our boundary before going east which is down hill also so were thinking thats the problem area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Mike_scotland said: itll go for miles i assume m8, and even then its through some pretty rough looking trees etc, we have replaced our part so i dont see how we are responsible, i had a look back and the planning conditions were we to concreted it in on the driveway which we did and the builder just went and replaced the lot as he was saying its easier as the line was pretty old and knackered. I agree its not your problem but sometimes shared problems become opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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