Quick Fix Cylinder

[Onoff]

Having run out of oil recently I got back to thinking than an immersion would be handy to have as a back up for hot water. The existing copper cylinder that came with the house (nom 1070x450) is "wedged" up under the rafters. There is an unconnected immersion but it's all broken about the terminals. I reckon it's about 17 or 18 years old. It's also the "wrong" side to access / replace.

 

 

The immersion site right under a rafter.

 

 

So I thought I'd go grab a new st/st one.  (I don't want to move the hot water cylinder or bugger about at the mo thinking about a TS or UVC btw).

 

But I'm confused. There's this one:

 

https://www.bes.co.uk/indirect-stainless-steel-cylinders-1065-x-450-mm-48in-x-18in-160-litres?ref=gs&gclid=CI6d-uH6tdMCFbgK0wod7GYJkA

 

Or this:

 

http://www.screwfix.com/p/rm-indirect-ss-cylinder-1065-x-450/93313#product_additional_details_container

 

They would both put the immersion the right side for access.

 

What's the better make Stelstor or RM?

 

And for the same overall size the Stelstor says it's 160L but the RM 206L? Both stainless. Very odd! Extra litreage would be good.

 

Edited April 21, 2017 by Onoff

[Nickfromwales]

Don't buy either, stop running out of oil, and save all the expense for when you change to the TS / UVC+buffer. . 

It ain't broke so don't fix it ?

 

[jack]

Can't you just retrofit an Essex flange to the existing tank?

 

[Jeremy Harris]

13 minutes ago, jack said:

Can't you just retrofit an Essex flange to the existing tank?

 

 

 

Being blessed with a slightly perverse mind, the image that an "Essex flange" conjures up is definitely not safe for this forum...........

[asklair]

Heres a better solution, http://learn.eartheasy.com/2012/06/how-to-make-a-poor-mans-hot-tub/

I like your posts, thinking of building that solar can heater, the best part will be drinking the beer to get the cans to do the job.

[Onoff]

20 minutes ago, asklair said:

Heres a better solution, http://learn.eartheasy.com/2012/06/how-to-make-a-poor-mans-hot-tub/

I like your posts, thinking of building that solar can heater, the best part will be drinking the beer to get the cans to do the job.

 

Ah yes the design from Boil-A-Gilf Inc.

 

I've seen some dangerous sh!t but that takes the crown!

[Onoff]

39 minutes ago, jack said:

Can't you just retrofit an Essex flange to the existing tank?

 

 

You mean to fit a short immersion sideways?

[jack]

Might also be a job for a Willis heater.  Bit of pipework involved, but a lot cheaper and easier than replacing the cylinder.

[jack]

3 minutes ago, Onoff said:

You mean to fit a short immersion sideways?

 

Yes.  Someone with some sort of clue will be able to tell you how low on the tank you should consider fitting it.  

 

The Willis-type arrangement would likely be less of a faff.

[Onoff]

10 minutes ago, jack said:

Might also be a job for a Willis heater.  Bit of pipework involved, but a lot cheaper and easier than replacing the cylinder.

 

Good shout. I'd forgotten about those! I see though they're 15mm fittings generally?

[Nickfromwales]

Check out @TerryE's blog for the one thats ready to go.  

[jack]

16 minutes ago, Onoff said:

I see though they're 15mm fittings generally?

 

Size queen.

[Jeremy Harris]

Yes they are short 15mm fittings, but the things work like a dream, far, far better than an immersion in the cylinder,  We stayed in a cottage up in the Antrim Glens a few years ago, lovely place, miles from any other house,  All the hot water came from a cylinder with a Willis heater sat in the bottom of the hot press.  The really great thing about the Willis is that you get enough hot water to do the washing up after maybe five to ten minutes, as it always heats the very top of the tank first.  I'd strongly recommend one, based on our couple of weeks of using one.

 

As a side note, I just really love North Antrim, one of my favourite place in the UK.

Edited April 21, 2017 by JSHarris

[Nickfromwales]

51 minutes ago, JSHarris said:

 

 

Being blessed with a slightly perverse mind, the image that an "Essex flange" conjures up is definitely not safe for this forum...........

Wash your mouth out ?

All the girls from Essex are wholesome churchgoing folk. 

[Jeremy Harris]

2 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Wash your mouth out ?

All the girls from Essex are wholesome churchgoing folk. 

 

Best ask @Construction Channel, he's our local "Essex girl" expert............

[PeterW]

Willis Heater is ideal for this situation - it's a couple of hours to retrofit but use compression fittings not push fit as it can get pretty hot on the top tee. 

 

Also makes it easier to remove it when you get round to fitting that UVC.....

[Onoff]

29 minutes ago, JSHarris said:

 

Best ask @Construction Channel, he's our local "Essex girl" expert............

 

Careful, have you not seen Faye wielding a nail gun?

[Onoff]

35 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Wash your mouth out ?

All the girls from Essex are wholesome churchgoing folk. 

 

Makes my Surrey Flange sound much more upmarket!

[Ferdinand]

And here's me thinking the Essex Flange was the Baboons of Basildon.

[Onoff]

On 21/04/2017 at 19:31, Nickfromwales said:

Check out @TerryE's blog for the one thats ready to go.  

 

I've had a look at @TerryE 's stuff thought he went with x2 Sunamps?

 

Or haven't I read far enough?

[Nickfromwales]

Willis heater doing his space heating as pre-heater for the UFH manifold.

[Onoff]

2 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Willis heater doing his space heating as pre-heater for the UFH manifold.

Ngafc!